I have a Tiger icebreaker 2 and a mcdermott stinger that i need to move. The icebreaker weighs 19.2oz and measures 13.05mm right under the ferrule. Still has the original icebreaker tip on it. It has two ding spots on it that i took pics of (the dings look worse in the pics than they actually are). The stinger weighs 18.2oz, but it is threaded for a weight bolt if anyone wants to add weight. The shaft measures 13.35 at the base of the ferrule. It has a leather tip on it, but im unsure what kind of tip it is, i do know that it is not layered. The cue is straight and solid. It does have a pretty good knick in the forearm that i filled in with sharpie so its not real noticable, i took a pic of it. Other than that the cue is in good shape, it has a couple other very small dings like almost every used cue has. I will accept the best reasonable offer on these cues either seperate or as a package, transaction through money order only as i dont have paypal. Thanks for looking.