Nelsonite in Australia

I buy Mine straight from them In a 5 gallon bucket. They might ship world wide, but not sure how much to ship over seas, you know how that is. probably costs.

Greg
 
Cue Crazy said:
I buy Mine straight from them In a 5 gallon bucket. They might ship world wide, but not sure how much to ship over seas, you know how that is. probably costs.

Greg
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Do you have their contact information? I bought some about 10 years ago but don't have their number any more and an internet search hasen't found it.
 
cueman said:
Nelsonite Chemical Products
2320 Oak Industrial Drive NE
Grand Rapids, MI 49505
616-456-7098

Chris
www.cuesmith.com
www.internationalcuemakers.com
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Thanks I still have like half a can but wonder if it is still any good after so long. I used it for a while then got away from it. It seems like it always has a smell and never actually dries. I don't really know if does anything, but if it does no harm what the heck. Stroud told me he soaked the whole cue in the stuff.
 
If you do a search on nelsonite, it'll show that it's used a lot on pool decks, fences etc. Is this the same Nelsonite used in cues?

I got Nelsonite from Cuecomponents... haven't dipped yet, wondering how long would it take to dry out or any special drying methods involved? My shaftwood runs around 6-9%MC.

Hadj
 
As any liquid it only penetrates the surface so far, The text book version says 72 hours minimum for drying. Longer is always better.
 
Mike (or anybody else), do you know of any alternative to Nelsonite, that doesn't smell so bad.
I mean, it's horrible.
 
Michael Webb said:
As any liquid it only penetrates the surface so far, The text book version says 72 hours minimum for drying. Longer is always better.
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You know I would really tend to agree with that. If you leave it in long enough the solvent will penetrate probably to the core but any solids that have benefits will not go very deep at all. In fact when you turn the shaft down even a little, the smell and color that remains may be nothing but solvent and the very small amount, if any, of solids that remains may have no benefits at all. It may actually be useless unless you dip the shaft after the final turn. It would be easy enough to test.
 
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hadjcues said:
If you do a search on nelsonite, it'll show that it's used a lot on pool decks, fences etc. Is this the same Nelsonite used in cues?

I got Nelsonite from Cuecomponents... haven't dipped yet, wondering how long would it take to dry out or any special drying methods involved? My shaftwood runs around 6-9%MC.

Hadj
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There are different product #'s on the stuff for different applications, I believe that is what I was told By the rep once before when I ordered.

Greg
 
macguy said:
You know I would really tend to agree with that. If you leave it in long enough the solvent will penetrate probably to the core but any solids that have benefits will not go very deep at all. In fact when you turn the shaft down even a little, the smell and color that remains may be nothing but solvent and the very small amount, if any, of solids that remains may have no benefits at all. It may actually be useless unless you dip the shaft after the final turn. It would be easy enough to test.
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Your only suppose to dip for a certain amount of time, If you dip a final shaft the pores will open and the shaft will most likely move, If it didn't I would be real surprised, but I have been surprised before.
 
BiG_JoN said:
Mike (or anybody else), do you know of any alternative to Nelsonite, that doesn't smell so bad.
I mean, it's horrible.
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I dip outside, and leave them there for a couple of hours, It helps.
 
BiG_JoN said:
Mike (or anybody else), do you know of any alternative to Nelsonite, that doesn't smell so bad.
I mean, it's horrible.
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There used to be a product called PHENOSEAL which does something to the wood like Nelsonite does but it was discontinued due to the high cost of manufacturing. Doesn't smell either
 
Cue Crazy said:
There are different product #'s on the stuff for different applications, I believe that is what I was told By the rep once before when I ordered.

Greg
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Buddy you mean the one we use on shafts were basically made for shaft treatment? What could be the other uses of it and the other different uses of the other Nelsonites?
 
macguy said:
You know I would really tend to agree with that. If you leave it in long enough the solvent will penetrate probably to the core but any solids that have benefits will not go very deep at all. In fact when you turn the shaft down even a little, the smell and color that remains may be nothing but solvent and the very small amount, if any, of solids that remains may have no benefits at all. It may actually be useless unless you dip the shaft after the final turn. It would be easy enough to test.
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What about using Nelsonite in a vacuum tube? Would it reach down to the core? Has anyone tried this?

Hadj
 
hadjcues said:
Buddy you mean the one we use on shafts were basically made for shaft treatment? What could be the other uses of it and the other different uses of the other Nelsonites?
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All I can say for sure off the top of My head, is that I recall them Having different product #'s on their products. I am sure It was formulated for more then shafts, but is what I was told, was the common product # that cuemakers were using at the time I talked with them. I have a spec sheet that came with it, and a fax from them with some info on their products here somewhere, If I run accross It, I'll look It over and see what info is on that. Uses, well probably the ones you mentioned, and woodworking/turning in general I would think also. Anyone that would have an issue with movement probably. for all I know some of the other products may be simular to anchorseal to help with checking, but really don't know. Some of the other products could be for stabalizing other materials besides wood, but again It's just a blind guess right now without the info in hand, so don't know for sure.

Greg
 
From what I saw on a knifemakers forum Nelsonite is not shipped overseas in small quantities because of some stabilizer in it (hazardous). Can't say about large quantities. I think the product number was 30B??? The knifemakers seemed to also have a couple of other products that they use (can't remember).They use the stuff you get at home depot too (Minwax) but they thin it out with something because out of the can it won't penetrate the wood enough.It also needs to be sanded down after.

Terry
 
Just went back looking through knifemaker forums
Nelsonite 30B02, AKryloid(acryloid) B-72,Paraloid B-72
or one guy said a less expensive alternative is polyureathane clear thinned 2 to 1(2 thinner -1 urethane) said it gives similar results to Nelsonite. They were also drying their wood using vacume.

Terry
 
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