Nelsonite

newo9277

newo9277

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Hi,
When dipping a cue in Nelsoite should you, or can you dip it before gluing all the parts together, or after? If dipped before does it effect gluing it? If dipped after does it effect the glue in the joints you have allready glued and other materials such as phenolic parts?
Thanks in advance for any help you can give me,
Owen
 
Nelsonite is made with turpentine, I wouldn't put the rings, nor would I dip past .580 on the ferrule side.
 
Michael Webb said:
Nelsonite is made with turpentine, I wouldn't put the rings, nor would I dip past .580 on the ferrule side.
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From Owen's post, I got the idea he was talking about butts. Your answer seemed as if you were talking about shafts. Is Nelsonite only recommended for shafts?

Thanks,
Tracy
 
Sorry about that, I do all my nelsonite work and stablizing before the cue is assembled. My finished size depending on what pin I use is .840 to .850. I put the cue together at .890
 
Michael Webb said:
Nelsonite is made with turpentine, I wouldn't put the rings, nor would I dip past .580 on the ferrule side.
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Will the Nelsonite effect the rings or the glue?
Thank,
Owen
 
I'm with Mr. Webb here, Nelsonite within about .040-.050 of finish. Butt and Shaft wood.
 
Michael Webb said:
Sorry about that, I do all my nelsonite work and stablizing before the cue is assembled. My finished size depending on what pin I use is .840 to .850. I put the cue together at .890
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Mike, I dip mine earlier at around 0.950, would it have any effect on what stage you dip the cue?

I know some cuemakers dip the woods and the whole cue a few thousandths before final size... would this have any effect on glues, metal rings etc?

What about for an all wood cue?
Thanks,

Hadj
 
Sorry I didn't get back to you sooner, I don't know for sure if it will effect the rings and glue BUT my theory is that it will, and for that reason I don't do the rings until after that point. As a rule of thumb in my shop, I like to have atleast 3 turns left without any nelsonite dipping. Nelsonite is a very good product to help season the wood along with time, But there also has to be time without it.
 
What else can be used to seal other than nelsonite? or what chemical is nelsonite exactly so i can find somehting different, Thanks
 
yobleduwop said:
What else can be used to seal other than nelsonite? or what chemical is nelsonite exactly so i can find somehting different, Thanks
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Nelsonite is not a chemical, it's a blend of many chemicals each one of which is more dangerous to your health than the one before. It's been around for a long time and litterly all furniture builders use it. Works great for what it's intended, doesn't cost much and is easy to get. Life doesn't get much better than this. Why look for a substitute?
Dick
 
Basicly it all comes down to its availability, i would be happy to pay what ever it costs its just the 70 dollars AUD to get it shipped then 50 AUD customs check that then makes it unreasonable, ive heard of people using boiled linseed oil and beeswax all mixed to go get the same effect but i dont think it did anyhting like nelsonite did, Thanks joel
 
yobleduwop said:
Basicly it all comes down to its availability, i would be happy to pay what ever it costs its just the 70 dollars AUD to get it shipped then 50 AUD customs check that then makes it unreasonable, ive heard of people using boiled linseed oil and beeswax all mixed to go get the same effect but i dont think it did anyhting like nelsonite did, Thanks joel
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Boiled linseed oil was used as a oil finish in the in the 17th, 18th and even 19th century. It did very little to protect wood. Beeswax is a very good sealer to keep out moisture in wood. I'm sure the combination was concocted to emulsify the beeswax to penetrate the surface of the wood. Now that would be O.K. if you were using a hand rubbed oil finish on a cue but in this day and age you probably couldn't pay someone to use one of your cues. Everyone wants a high sheen film type fiish that oil will not provide. By using the beeswax you couldn't use a film type of finish.
If I were you I would contact someome there in Australia who build furniture. All furniture builders use some type of stabilizer to keep their finished goods from twisting and racking apart. I'm sure there is sealer on that continent but I believe you are asking the question in the wrong forum. You need to be asking from people who are more knowledgeable about your area. I was thinking of having you contact the Nelsonite corp. to find the dist. or agent in your area where you could purchase some but you apparantly have already done that as you have the shipping costs in front of you.
good luck
Dick
 
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