New Game - "Rotational Remainder"

dickp

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Hey all-
I've come up with a game, and would love some feedback.
So it starts as a game of 8-ball.
Sinking the 8 legally is worth 5 points.
The player who just lost the 8-ball portion of the game now comes to the table. Without repositioning the cueball, incoming player can accept the option to shoot out his remaining balls. Shooter will be awarded points equal to the number of balls in play, but only if all balls are run on his first inning. Penalty for a failed attempt to run his remaining balls is that all possible points are awarded to the other player, and a new 8-ball game is racked.

If the loser of the 8-ball portion of the game declines to take the option to shoot the rotational portion, the option goes to the other player (the original winner of the 8-ball portion) who now has the option to sink his opponents remaining balls. If both players decline, a new 8-ball game is racked and the game is continued.

If the shooter manages to not only sink all of the remaining balls, but to do so in sequential order, the point award is doubled.

Example:
I'm shooting stripes, and sink the 8 leaving your 1,2,3 and 5-ball on the the table. I get five points for the 8. You accept the option and forego an easy shoot on the 2 to first make a difficult cut on the 1 and get position on the 2, which you proceed to shoot in. You unfortunately overshoot your position on the 3 however, and so resign yourself to taking a workable shot on the 5 and sliding over to get the 3 last.

Four balls sunk, so four points to you. Had you not gotten out of position on that 3 and had you managed to run the whole set in sequential order, it would have been eight points to you. In either case, had you missed, it would have meant a further four points to me, and the start of a new 8-ball game. (There is no doubling of the penalty for a failed attempt to run the balls in order; when calculating the penalty for a failed run, it's limited to 1x the number of balls in play.)

My buddies and I have been playing it awhile, and although it could probably use some tweaking, it's pretty fun. Downside is you need to use counters and keep track of points. Upside, it doesn't matter if you're playing on a coin-op, because you don't have to replace potted balls. And it adds some positional strategy when you're shooting at the 8 - if you break and run but leave your opponent open, they could conceivably make 14 points to your 5 (7 remaining balls x2, if sunk sequentially).

What do you all think?
 
Hey all-
I've come up with a game, and would love some feedback.
So it starts as a game of 8-ball.
Sinking the 8 legally is worth 5 points.
The player who just lost the 8-ball portion of the game now comes to the table. Without repositioning the cueball, incoming player can accept the option to shoot out his remaining balls. Shooter will be awarded points equal to the number of balls in play, but only if all balls are run on his first inning. Penalty for a failed attempt to run his remaining balls is that all possible points are awarded to the other player, and a new 8-ball game is racked.

If the loser of the 8-ball portion of the game declines to take the option to shoot the rotational portion, the option goes to the other player (the original winner of the 8-ball portion) who now has the option to sink his opponents remaining balls. If both players decline, a new 8-ball game is racked and the game is continued.

If the shooter manages to not only sink all of the remaining balls, but to do so in sequential order, the point award is doubled.

Example:
I'm shooting stripes, and sink the 8 leaving your 1,2,3 and 5-ball on the the table. I get five points for the 8. You accept the option and forego an easy shoot on the 2 to first make a difficult cut on the 1 and get position on the 2, which you proceed to shoot in. You unfortunately overshoot your position on the 3 however, and so resign yourself to taking a workable shot on the 5 and sliding over to get the 3 last.

Four balls sunk, so four points to you. Had you not gotten out of position on that 3 and had you managed to run the whole set in sequential order, it would have been eight points to you. In either case, had you missed, it would have meant a further four points to me, and the start of a new 8-ball game. (There is no doubling of the penalty for a failed attempt to run the balls in order; when calculating the penalty for a failed run, it's limited to 1x the number of balls in play.)

My buddies and I have been playing it awhile, and although it could probably use some tweaking, it's pretty fun. Downside is you need to use counters and keep track of points. Upside, it doesn't matter if you're playing on a coin-op, because you don't have to replace potted balls. And it adds some positional strategy when you're shooting at the 8 - if you break and run but leave your opponent open, they could conceivably make 14 points to your 5 (7 remaining balls x2, if sunk sequentially).

What do you all think?

Just being constructive here...so dont take it like I'm being cruel. It seems more like just a different scoring system for 8ball as opposed to a new game. You're using 8ball as the base of the game and applying a point structure to it. This does not make it a different game. Bonus ball was a relatively new game that built off of something like snooker with alternating the ball you had to shoot at. If you think along these lines you can come up with a new game.

ex:
Rotation (10ball,9ball,7ball,american/philippine) shoot balls in sequential order
8ball shoot stripes/solids before 8
Straight pool, shoot any available ball
1P-shoot balls in particular pocket
GOLF, shoot into pockets rotating around table
Snooker-shoot balls in alternating order
Etc (carom...3c,1c,straight, balkline...for games without pockets)

If you invent a game that does this, I think you can say you came up with a new game. Just my opinion. :-)

As a side note: Scoring systems lend themselves easily to becoming a handicapping system. So on this part you have a good handicap system to build on!!

Good Luck!
 
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