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When you practice your break, work from different area's of the table.

Try breaking from the side rails. And when working on parking your CB on the break. Start off with a softer break untill you can park the CB consistently, then add a bit of power, and repeat lol.

Also, If your going to break from the end rail like you do, put the cb closer, you'll get more power! And you can practice breaking from the box. With your bridgehand on the table.

When you do break, you want to hit the CB center or with maybe 1/2 tip of high english.

And yes it sucks not having enough room to get into a comfy stance and stroke. I played in a bar that if the CB was on the end rail or one of the side rails you had to jack way up on the CB lol. That always made for some interesting saftey play.

You can also work on your 8ball break, and 10ball. If you get a good break with those two, then your 9ball break will be cake.
 
Also lol,

when you get your table re-felted, ask about getting the pockets shimmed, depending on how big the pockets are, 2 shims would probably be the limit. 3 shims will make you cry and hate the game lol.
 
No matter where your breaking from, never go above center. Even if you are using the cut-break, it's low outside, contacting the 1ball on the same side you are breaking from (i.e. if you are breaking from the left side of the table, you want to cut the 1ball to the right) and drawing the cueball 1-rail to the middle or down table. I think a few people suggested either center or above center, and someone said high inside?? I strongly suggest you ignore that advice. Either use centerball, or just a hair below center. Hit the one square in the face, and your object is to get the cueball to deflect or bounce back to the middle of the table. Just a touch of follow will cause the cueball to go forward, and you will rarely get a shot on the 1ball, since it's always heading down table, which is where you are breaking from.

Your game is not bad, but judging by the way you pocket balls and play position, if you ever play on a 9foot table with tighter pockets, you will be very hard pressed to run out one rack, unless you get cosmo layouts like you did in the first two videos. It's going to be very hard adjusting to "real" equipment, 9footers with 4.25-4.5 inch pockets that are cut properly. I suggest tightening up the pockets on your table, ALOT. And practice layouts where you have to go across the table and use multiple rails for position. Put the 1ball on one side, 2 ball on the other side, 3 ball on the same side as the 1ball, and so on so forth. You had pretty easy layouts, so you didn't have to move the cueball that much. Work on tough randomized layouts. You got a pretty good stroke, but I think you are going to have to make some adjustments to your game if you get to play on "real" equipment.

One more thing, I think that you were soft-breaking on purpose, but you were giving yourself mud racks. The balls should spread out more than that, even if you were breaking a little softer than normal. Try giving yourself a tighter rack.
 
Neil said:
Before you suggest someone ignore someone elses advice, I suggest you ignore your own. You are a classic example of someone who doesn't know what they are talking about giving advice. As long as you have been on this forum, one would think that by now you would have picked up on the fact that if you draw the cueball, it will come back to the other end of the table, not the middle. I suggest you have someone watch close when you break, you aren't hitting where you think you are. Further, if you think that guy has a good stroke, maybe you need to go get some lessons.

Wow you are dense. For a power break, I said either hit center, or a hair below center. For a cut break, WHICH IS A SOFT BREAK, and is also the break that Corey Deuel employs (which you mentioned) is hit with LOW OUTSIDE.

Do you live in a cave or something? Pay attention to how every top player breaks. They are striking the cueball in a downwards motion. Either with center, or just a small hair below center. They arent "drawing" the cueball, because they arent using a draw stroke. They are smashing the shit out of the cueball. If you can't tell the difference between the two strokes, don't try to tell me that I don't know what a good stroke is, because you don't know SHIT! :rolleyes:

When the cueball pops up in the air, that's because it's like a mini-jump shot, the downwards trajectory from their cue cause the ball to hop in the air. They are either trying to squat the cueball in the center of the table, but favoring down table, rather than up table where the spot is. Why? BECAUSE THE 1BALL ALWAYS GOES DOWN TABLE. Now, take a deep breath and use your underdeveloped brain for a second. Imagine you are breaking, either from the side rail, or with your hand on the cloth. If you raise your tip above center, you are making your cue more level. That makes it EXTREMELY difficult to get the cueball to pop up in the air. Which makes your argument of the topspin "holding the cueball" after it pops up in the air bullshit. The cueball squats in the middle of the table after hopping up, from a perfect dead-center hit on both the 1ball and the cueball with a downwards trajectory of the cue.

Now, try again to use your brain. I know it's hard, but you can do it.

If the 1ball goes down table 95% of the time, it would make alot more sense to hit a hair below center, rather then above center. Why? Because if your tip strikes anywhere above center, it will go foward. In case you don't understand, forward=bad, backward=good on break. Wait let me dumb it down for you some more- u no want make ball go forward after break, cuz u never get shot on 1ball. If you still don't get it, go enroll in some special-ed classes.

It's funny this topic came up. I was just at Hard Times in Bellflower last night, and got to see Efren, Bustamante, Hohmann, Schmidt, and a bunch of other top players play for a few minutes, just as their exhibition was coming to an end. Never saw any of them aiming above center on the break.

Do you ever watch the pros play? It really sounds like you havent. Did you learn your super-special topspin break in your bar league? LOL thanks for the laugh. How about you ask some of the pros on this forum? Did that ever cross your mind? Does anything cross your mind? Hello? Anyone there? :D

Oh, and about the guy's stroke- he can draw his rock, he can follow his rock. He's got an idea how to play position. Can Keith McCready draw and follow his rock? How about Allen Hopkins? They sure as hell can, and as long as they can do it, they have a good stroke. If you never saw them play before, you would probably be the first dipshit to try them out, and get busted, because you would probably think they can't play, and need lessons with their poke-strokes.

You are way too easy to rip apart. Please try again. :)
 
Neil said:
First, when I replied to this post I was ticked-off before I read it and didn't properly read it, so I'm going to re-respond to it.

Cuetechasaurus, first you say to never hit above center. Wrong. You want to hit the one dead-on with either center or a hair above center. The reason is the harder you hit, the farther the cue will bounce back. On a real hard hit, a touch of follow will help to kill the cueball in the center of the table. I agree that you never want to put a lot of follow on it.Then you state that the one is always headed up-table. Not on a square hit it's not. It should end up around the middle of the table. And why would you recommend a cut break? By sending the cueball to the side rail you are losing control of it. Way too much can happen to it. The idea is to control the one and the cueball. Then you state that he had cosmo runouts, but later you state how bad his break is? Maybe you can explain to Corey Duel why a weak break is so bad. However, I do agree that the racks probably weren't tight. As far as TCo4482's stroke, I stand by my statement. (no offense TCo4482, I already explained what's wrong with it). And I find it amusing that some of you people think that anything other than a 9' isn't a "real" table. I'd like to be there when you explain that one to Keith McCready!

Let me re-respond to this one. You say that on a square hit, the 1ball stays in the center of the table. Ok, one last time, I hope I can get thru to you. You can break from ANYWHERE behind the line, and hit the 1ball square. If you break from the dead center of the table behind the line, and hit the 1ball square, sure, it can stay in the middle of the table. But if you break anywhere else except from that dead center spot behind the line, the 1ball will deflect towards the side rail, and usually wind up in the kitchen, if it doesn't go in the side. You are completely clueless on this subject! And again, I already explained the cut-break which Corey Deuel invented. And I didn't say the thread-creator had a bad break, I said that that he was giving himself a BAD RACK! I also said that it looked like he was soft-breaking on purpose!!! Go back and re-read what I said, doofus. Thanks again for the laugh!!! Try again when your brain is fully developed! :D
 
Dysfunctional?

Sorry TCo4482,
This is like inviting your girlfriend to dinner, and your parents start fighting in front of her? Sorry this is how your first post ended.

Can we still be friends?LOL:D

Mike
 
Neil said:
First off, just FYI, I have played in pro tournys, last one I played in I won my first match 10-1, Then got knocked out 10-8 by McCready, so I do know how to play. I also used to be a certified BCA instructor. Second, I refuse to argue with someone as childish and ignorant as you seem to be. And whoopee, you watch a couple of pros for a few minutes. And you think that makes you an expert? Your'e the type of person that gives forums a bad name. You just go ahead and believe whatever you want. I'm not wasting anymore of my life with the likes of you.

Ooh wow! You are so awesome! You are probably an APA 4 with a beergut so big you get bellyhooked trying to shoot a spot shot. Anyways, you couldn't respond because you realized you didn't know what you were talking about, and you spoke out of anger and that clouded your judgement. I don't care if I win or lose the argument, it's more important that the person seeking advice gets the correct advice. I'm still laughing at the suggestion of putting follow on the break. :rolleyes:
 
cardsfan said:
Sorry TCo4482,
This is like inviting your girlfriend to dinner, and your parents start fighting in front of her? Sorry this is how your first post ended.

Can we still be friends?LOL:D

Mike

LOL!! No hard feelings here. I didn't realize my post was going to stir up this much controversy.
 
TCo4482 you will find real quick that pool players know everthing about everything.That sum it up.There is alot of good info here and I think you will find the few that are willing to help and the one' that are here to bash.
Good luck with you game.....
 
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