Thank you, got mine 4 x 8 yesterday. Looks and feels very strong, and it is lighter than I expected it to be. Cannot figure out what pushes the shafts up. If there is no spring in there, it must be magic... Had to remove 60% of padding from the lid (which was very easy) to minimize the pressure. But, then again, my shafts are 31.5 - 32 inches in lengths. A 29" shaft fits in perfectly. Thanx again.