Nitty behavior

I hate playing pool in America. Scumbags like that are rampant and it makes me sick. I gotta tell ya, I'm not a gambler by a long shot, but if I do decide to gamble I don't give a spot and I don't take one. It's straight up or nothing. I wouldn't care if Efren, Earl, and Johnny were all waiting in the wings to rob me, I would not take a spot. No one wins if there's a handicap. If you have a spot and take the set it's because of the spot. If you give a spot and lose it's because of the spot. The only way to win is in a fair game where the best player wins. Spots are for pussies. I'm more than willing to hand over the cash if I lost to a better player.
MULLY
and yes, I've lost my fair share so I'm not trying to come off like I win every time I'm at the table. I just don't do handicapping.

LOL, well I'd sure like to play you some then!


No, the reality of gambling situations is that if you're a good player and you want to get action you need to be prepared to give up weight. On the reverse side the 'matching up' allows weaker competition to play against better players for stakes they would never bet otherwise. I mean it's fine to say that spots are for pussies but would you seriously play Efren or Johnny for $10,000 or something playing even? I seriously doubt it. You might if they made the game right - provided you had a little gamble in you...
 
Granted this is an often talked about behavior and sadly becoming more prevalent within local rooms.


So I decided to play a guy whose just a little gear over my head [ in 9 ball anyway] for some 20 a game one pocket which is what we classify as cheap action. Anyway we start the discussion, where I ask how we're gonna match up and he's asking for three balls and the break and I respond with we'll start even since we've never matched up, he barks and argues and I get him talked into it. Fine and good, he wins the flip for the break.

First game comes up and i'm playing terrible, selling out non stop and he's taking advantage and shooting about how he should considering i'm giving him charity; seriously i'd have been better off throwing that twenty on the sidewalk. Score is 8-5; So second game I'm focused in and trying to tighten my head up. Getting in the mode as I say, anyway I break and for the first time ever make the wing ball and pull perfect shape. I proceed to run another 5 balls. By the time he gets to shoot he's down 6-0, well the entire time i'm making that little run he's literally stomping around the table screaming about I trapped him, how i'm a one pocket champion, no one should be able to break and run six balls off a break, that i'm a piece of #### and generally anything else he can to get into my brain. After that 6-0 deficit I made one terrible mistake and he runs out. He proceeds to tell me that we're not playing anymore one pocket unless i give him 10-7 and rotate break. I immediately laugh and break my cue down, hand him the money and state simply "you're up 2 games demanding a spot?"


He goes off on another tangent and starts to scream and go insane about the fact that I quit after two games when he's been flagging me, threatening me and in short making an ass of himself. Anyway he offers me the 8 and last two playing nine ball for some cheap sets [5 for 20] I agree. Put the cue back together andstart playing. I win 5-4, he wins 5-4, third set I catch gear and stroll him 5-0 and he pulls up and starts screaming again about the spot being out of line. I politely take my earbuds out, tell him to give me my 20 back we're done that Im content getting 20 back. Well he proceeds to call me a nit for quitting "Up" in our 9 ball sets. Offers me the 8 for 10 a game, at this point after arguing and basically calling him out on a being nitty at this point, i'm shook apparently. I rattled and dogged more shots in the 5 games we played at that point than i have all night.


I pull up after getting down 5 games because i realize i'm starting to get my nose opened up. We quit and I lay the money in the pocket as usual and he laughs and makes the comment that " Your nitty a## will never get a spot from me" and I immediately turn on him and ask why, his reply. " you wont spot me in 1p when you play a lot better than I do so you're not getting a spot in my game." so all in all I played for about 3 hours, lost 70 bucks and got so mad and shook that I literally went off on him.


Sorry for the rant but honestly what happened to matching up and being friendly in cheap games, as opposed to being called a nit for wanting a fair game?

And yeah I was in the wrong in some of the arguing, but the blatant flag and behavior that got me shook up is what I can't stand. No big hurt feelings over the money or losing, i honestly deserved to lose the way I played, but to honestly call me a nit then tell me you'll never spot me after beating me, and then to demand a spot when you're up money??? It doesn't get much worse imo.


I think you have to ask yourself: is it worth the aggravation?

Here, there's a player that I would love to play on a regular basis -- a tough game against a talented player. But the first time we had a disagreement on a close call, he proved himself to be an ass. (Who knows -- he probably thought the same of me:-)

In any case, I just decided it wasn't worth the aggravation. Life is too short to mess with (________)

Lou Figueroa
tries to enjoy
playing pool
 
LOL, well I'd sure like to play you some then!


No, the reality of gambling situations is that if you're a good player and you want to get action you need to be prepared to give up weight. On the reverse side the 'matching up' allows weaker competition to play against better players for stakes they would never bet otherwise. I mean it's fine to say that spots are for pussies but would you seriously play Efren or Johnny for $10,000 or something playing even? I seriously doubt it. You might if they made the game right - provided you had a little gamble in you...


Oh, I know exactly why spots are given and taken, I just don't like them. I usually steer clear of anyone that is lower level than myself because I personally can't enjoy the game if someone isn't shooting back at me. I thrive on the challenge of it. Again, I never said I was the world's greatest player, but I surely won't take a spot. When I gamble on pool it's not going to be with anyone lower than me or anyone so much higher than myself that I don't have a chance. I was using Efren, Earl, and Johnny as an example. No, I wouldn't bet 10k against any of those guys, of course not. I'd be willing to go a hundred or so until I lost a thousand though. I know going into it that I'm going to lose. But I tell ya what, I'd rather walk away minus a thousand dollars than walk away with an extra grand in my pocket with people saying "Yeah, he beat Efren, but Efren gave him 4 games on the wire, the 7 out and the break." Sorry, pool is more about pride for me. Some things you will never hear about me is that I rob people, I shark people, or that I'm a nit. I play it straight across the board.
MULLY
 
thanks for the input

i pretty much agree that after that it isnt worth the hassle. Like i said id have to have the nuts locked with a vice to play him again and the money will be frozen on the light or in a third partys hand. I never considered that we went off to push my rhythm off. He did succeed on that so i can argue with the logic. And i never intended to adjust spots on the fly. We normally match with the 8 and play which is why i was a bit confused on his reactions. The 1p i get, sitting on the rail watching your opponent drop 6 before you get out of your chair could be disheartening, but to win that game and then demand i give up weight was idiotic to a degree ive never seen. The nine ball i shouldnt have gotten into after i got up and he began to complain but truthfully i liked the games odds, until the facesmash i did playing. I respect your point of view mully but i dont see its relevance to him or myself acting nitty, other than if we were like you it didnt happen. Sorry your point flew over my head im just curious as to what your trying to convey. Anyway thanks for the input. I didnt expect these results for what was basically my rant about nits being well nitty heh.
 
and so you write up a thread about it on the internet? seriously? man you should get a job or something.
 
and so you write up a thread about it on the internet? seriously? man you should get a job or something.




LOL! i work 40 hours a week, play pool for about 10 maybe 20 on a good week. You're gonna talk trash telling me to "Get a life" Do me a favor bud. Swallow a knife because you just insulted yourself. You took time to Post a response telling me to get a life yet you just wasted your own time to talk trash on the net. Congrats You deserve a freaking pulitzer for you statements and contributions.

I come here to hear and share opinions, and try to get insight on what I missed in this wonderful game called pool. If you having nothing decent to contribute please don't waste your own precious time insulting me. I truthfully don't care what you think. I enjoy other people's input and I enjoy other's opinion's and you are allowed to your opinion. Though I will say this, if you arent here to read about pool and what's happening in the people's lives who play the magnificient game WHY WASTE YOUR TIME READING IT?


Thanks.
 
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