No To Corey Dueul ~~~~~ Yes To Nick Van Den Berg

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Thanks Tom. As far as favorites go, that is so subjective that it is totally up to each individual. My intent was not to question anyone as to who their personal favorite player is but to question a statement that is written like it is a fact that Nick is better than Corey. In general, I think a player has to do more than win one tournament or even a couple of tournaments in order to be considered to be better than a Player of the Year.

I do see your point about how hard it would be for a person from another country to be the player of the year. But then again, what about Efren?

And thank you again for the kind wishes.


Goof75 said:
Hi Rick,

You're right about Corey Deuel. He deserves to be looked at in a different way than just as an open champion. This, because of him being the player of the year. The same with Earl Strickland, Johnny Archer, Tommy Kennedy...

But are you not forgetting that being player of the year in the USA is not easy for a non-American? Here in the Netherlands, we consider Nick van den Berg, Niels Feijen, Alex Lely, Rico Diks, Gilliano Smit and Joel Kartowikromo to be the national phenomenals...

But again, players like Corey, Mike Sigel, Bustamente, and mister Reyes are not to be ignored. But the list of very knowledgable is too long too mention. That's why I didn't even bring up the subject and just kept talking about Nick...

The most important thing is that we all, as spectators or players, have different favorites. They make us enjoy watching them play the game. That's what's needed to promote the beautiful game of pool in this World.

Anyway, have a happy birthday this weekend.

Tom Penrose
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El Nino...

Hi Rick,

To everybody who's reading this thread, yes, Nick is my favorite player and has been since a few years. So indeed, my opinion is very subjective...

But some of you guys are taking this much too serious. You should be able to appreciate every player who's reached international level instead of criticizing them... They've practiced and worked their asses off to reach that level.

But again, my opinion is very subjective, and thus, very personal.

By the way, for those who would like to see Nick play, he'll be at the BCA in Vegas.

Tom Penrose
 
Goof75 said:
You should be able to appreciate every player who's reached international level instead of criticizing them... They've practiced and worked their asses off to reach that level.
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That is certainly true, but consider the depth of talent in the U.S./Taiwan/Philipines and compare that to the Netherlands---there's no comparison!

Nick reached "international" status the same way Babica (from Poland) was able to play in the Worlds; that kid is barely a B player, btw. Granted, Nick is a great shooter, but with his current game I wouldn't stake him against local house pros in Taiwan, and certainly not against Corey for the cash.

-Roger
 
Hey Bernie. If Nick is so much superior to other players in the world, how come he hasn't won any major titles yet ?

Bernie: "and right now, no one, is controling the cue ball better than nick"

Yawn... Bernie, you're still full of it.

Nothing against Nick :)
 
Budda: you obviously have been to the Netherlands and/or the Eurotour events a fair bit to back up your statements?

I think you will find that because 9 ball in Europe is by far and away better organised than the US, better tournament players are emerging who are world-beaters.

Thorsten Hohmann immediately springs to mind as an example.

Nick is a great player, but he is by no means only young talent that Europe has to offer.
 
Raistlin said:
Budda: you obviously have been to the Netherlands and/or the Eurotour events a fair bit to back up your statements?

I think you will find that because 9 ball in Europe is by far and away better organised than the US, better tournament players are emerging who are world-beaters.

Thorsten Hohmann immediately springs to mind as an example.

Nick is a great player, but he is by no means only young talent that Europe has to offer.
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Agreed. v/d Berg is a very good player but he is not phenomenal. Hohmann is much more solid and I wouldn't imagine seeing him folding under pressure as I have seen v/d Berg doing a couple of times in Eurotour. I have also lived in Netherlands for a short period of time and I can tell that Feijen, Lely, Diks are also as good as him and IMHO Feijen is best of them. And yes, I've seen them play live many times on Eurotour and other occasions...

Currently at the Eurotour rankings Hohmann is number 1 and v/d Berg is 19th.

You mention Europe having a better organized 9-ball which is quite true. I'd say one Eurotour event has more world class players and upcoming world class beaters than any other regional tour in the world. Well, maybe Asian 9-ball tour has a little bit higher class with players from Philippines, Taiwan and Japan...
 
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