NYC pool vs. all of America

Charlie Williams has never been from NY unless it was when he was like 6. He played in the Hampton RDs, Va area as a teen and moved to Orlando shortly thereafter. Jose Garcia is from Vineland NJ- Its hidden somewhere in S Jersey. I dont think i have ever even seen a sign for it.
 
bud green said:
Kid Delicious is in Jersey - I thought Jose Garcia was from the NY or Jersey area,too.

Kid isn't currently competing again yet but will be soon and is definately a pro level player.
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No doubt, I just watched an old skins match and he was killin it.
 
Jenn Barretta has been of the most recent to hit mainstream media for billiards. And I know Robles got an cover page picture with article in the New York times.

Since those two represent NYC pool they are definitely beginning some strong wakes of awareness. In terms of ability they have the same ability as the top players.

But for some reason they keep holding back. I've seen both play with my own two eyes. And I will say that I think it is because they deal with an large amount of players below there skill it worsens their game.

Im not saying beating a bunch of weaker players will bring their game down. But it does not provide them with an environment of challenge suitable for their needs.

They did in fact beat some non-new yorkers in a recent exhibition at amsterdam. But considering Jenn's age she really shouldnt have any reason for losing to her opponent of that match.
 
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justnum said:
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They did in fact beat some non-new yorkers in a recent exhibition at amsterdam. But considering Jenn's age she really shouldnt have any reason for losing to her opponent of that match.
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I dont know what you are trying to say here but none of the likely possiblilities seem to make much sense.
 
Nostroke said:
I dont know what you are trying to say here but none of the likely possiblilities seem to make much sense.
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I am saying experience should beat talent.
 
Huh? Could you please explain why?

poolmouse said:
i can't help but giggle when i hear the term "professional pool player". :)

poolmouse
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Huh? Could you please explain why?
 
walk into a bank and ask for a loan. tell them you're a "professional pool player". they'll laugh you out the door. "professional pool" simply has no credibility. i can't help but wonder how anyone could suggest it does.

poolmouse
 
I'm still not following you why that makes you laugh. They play pool... as a proffesion, what else would you call it?
 
Professional athletes.

Before I get into a structural illustration of the english language let me just say whoever asked this question needs to resolve some intrapersonal issues.

Of the types of professional industries there is the sporting industry which breaks down into various professionals of the sporting industry. Athletes are a specific type of professional in the sporting industry. And professional pool player is a specific athlete.

But since you rely on monikers and stereotype level names you can say banger, pool player or gambler, only to reveal your ignorance.

Its like spelling someone's name wrong in hopes of getting a rise out of that person. Or worse paparazzi. I bet you couldnt even tell me what paparazzi means and what its historical significance came from.

Next time you ask a question please review what you are telling the person you are communicating to and what it implies.
 
thrasher789 said:
I'm still not following you why that makes you laugh. They play pool... as a proffesion, what else would you call it?
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take a look at the top 100 player earnings list. if you disregard any listed non-paid ipt winnings, what do you have left? can pool be considered a viable profession if only a hand full of people can hope to make a living at it? :)

poolmouse
 
justnum said:
I bet you couldnt even tell me what paparazzi means and what its historical significance came from.
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Fellini. 1960. The Sweet Life. Mosquito.

How much was the bet?

-td
 
It doesn't matter if you are a professional anything when you try and get an unsecured loan from a bank. You can be a doctor or an attorney and it doesn't matter. If you walk into a bank where you are unknown then your chances of getting an unsecured loan are next to zero.
 
Whether it's a viable profession or not doesn't change the fact that there are professional pool players who do derive their income from their pool playing skills.

Is Golf a viable profession? Basketball? There isn't any professional sport that is considered a viable profession when compared to the barriers to entry vs. average salaries.
 
Pool Player > Ambassador > Welfare > Jobless

Those little angled brackets are greater than signs.

The sentence reads pool player is greater than ambassador which is greater than welfare.

Pool players are people champions. You either know or you don't. But you never discuss specifics.
 
John Barton said:
Whether it's a viable profession or not doesn't change the fact that there are professional pool players who do derive their income from their pool playing skills.

Is Golf a viable profession? Basketball? There isn't any professional sport that is considered a viable profession when compared to the barriers to entry vs. average salaries.
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you're right, there are barriers in all professions. a short person can't hope to compete in the nba. a person with down syndrome can't hope to be a surgeon. however, if a person has the requisite skills, they should have a reasonable chance of making a decent living at their profession. making $10,000 or $20,000 a year is hardly a decent living for a professional. if there were more than 10 people cracking the $100,000 earnings bracket, it would be easier to argue that pool is a viable profession. nobody is saying a "c" player should be able to make a living as a professional pool player. but there are lots of 100+ ball runners who depend on alternate sources of income (or support or subsidy of some sort) to survive. i won't even get into how all the earnings of the majority of "professional pool players" can easily be wiped out by expenses traveling to and entering various tournaments needed to earn their income.

John Barton said:
It doesn't matter if you are a professional anything when you try and get an unsecured loan from a bank. You can be a doctor or an attorney and it doesn't matter. If you walk into a bank where you are unknown then your chances of getting an unsecured loan are next to zero.
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banks don't base loan decisions on whether they know you or not. they pull down your credit history, check your employment stability, your income, your savings, etc. then they decide if you're worth the risk. if a "professional pool player" goes into a bank and asks for a house loan, the bank will run you through the same process as your average bus driver, school teacher, technician, etc., before making a decision. it would be difficult to imagine a bank risking a house loan on a "professional pool player". perhaps efren would have a higher chance given his earnings record, but i'm sure they'll want a good size down payment to cover the risk of loaning to a "professional pool player" if he's considered at all.

don't get me wrong, i respect people who have a passion for the game of pool. it's a good way to relax and have fun. however, getting to the top of the sport is a huge time/money investment...the payoff simply isn't there, and its reputation of being a delusional waste of time is going to stick for a generation or more.

i remember a "profession pool player" in town for a tournament was bragging about being a pro. i asked him about his tournament earnings. he was so proud to proclaim he made $8,000 in all of 2005. i'm not sure what a welfare recipient gets but i'm sure its in the ballpark if not better.

http://www.azbilliards.com/thepros/2000thepros.cfm?year=2006

poolmouse
 
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