OB SR-6 construction?

I am curious how many critics would be able to pass a blindfold test between the Royce construction and the new construction.


Why would OB try to sell us all on the SLC if it didn't do anything or make any difference.

Was that just a marketing hype? Or is the current construction a marketing hype?

Or was it all just lies in the first place?
An attempt to stick out and make yourself known, no matter what.

I happen to seriously doubt they would come up with something like that, sell it hard, and it was all just lies.

Read some of this:

http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=269455
 
Why would OB try to sell us all on the SLC if it didn't do anything or make any difference.

Was that just a marketing hype? Or is the current construction a marketing hype?

Or was it all just lies in the first place?
An attempt to stick out and make yourself known, no matter what.

I happen to seriously doubt they would come up with something like that, sell it hard, and it was all just lies.

Read some of this:

http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=269455


Totally agree with you. The construction methods Royce built his cues on were his way and unique. Now it's not about the that, it's all about the money and just to get as many production cues out there.

To me that's sad. That's not what I thought OB cues was about. If the making of these cues was falling behind why not hire more people to build Royce's way and preserve the legacy and product he built.
 
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Totally agree with you. The construction methods Royce built his cues on were his way and unique. Now it's not about that, it's all about the money and just to get as many production cues out there.

To me that's sad. That's not what I thought OB cues was about. If the making of these cues was falling behind why not hire more people to build Royce's way and preserve the legacy and product he built.


Exactly....The way Royce spent all his blood, sweat, and tears to build his cues and the OB name has been TRASHED by Shane & his "consultant" Dale Perry. They are all about quantity and getting them out as fast as they can the way that Perry builds his cheap ass ebay cues "with an OB twist" over QUALITY.

The main reason we (they) were not able to keep up with demand is because the cnc machine that was responsible for over 80% to finish a blank that could be handed over to the inlay & finish guys was down for over 8 months so I was not able to get out a quality product, hence the reason for bringing Perry in to figure out a way to produce a quantity over quality product that is not the way Royce meant for them to be built.

I am not a disgruntled employee that was fired, I simply quit because I was ask to build an inferior product to meet demand that was not the way that Royce himself showed me how to build to uphold the OB name that everybody has come to love. A blank that was built the way Royce designed had NO limitations to inlay design as stated!!!

So sure, take your chance and try an OB cue. As Shane has stated you wont be able to tell the difference, but I am willing to bet $500 to a hole in a donut in time you will certainly notice the difference between a truly quality built OB cue that Royce showed me how to build and the way the Sinnott/Perry "ebay" cue is built.

And for the record, I will no longer be referring them as OB cues. I dont feel that they deserve that name as the B in OB created a legacy that Shane has totally destroyed. Maybe OS, SP, OSP, who cares. Royce is turning over in his grave at the way the company and its employees have been treated. So R.I.P Royce and R.I.P. OB....Change your name as you do not deserve to continue under the legacy of Royce!!!! :angry:

http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=452427
 
You are probably correct, I doubt people can tell, unless in a few years the old construction cues were solid and the newer ones had rattles in the handles or had finish issues, or warping or something. Right now, no way to tell outside of theoretical things.

I would like to try the two different cues though if they can bring samples of both to BCA show, I will be there with my son for Junior Nationals. Big fan of OB as a company overall although the Facebook posts by Royce's wife and employees do not read well. I have dealt with both Royce and Shane, both were very nice and had no issues with personally overseeing some shaft repairs I needed done.

Thank you for the kind words about the company, Royce and myself. They are very much appreciated. Look forward to seeing you and your son in July.
 
Why would OB try to sell us all on the SLC if it didn't do anything or make any difference.

Was that just a marketing hype? Or is the current construction a marketing hype?

Or was it all just lies in the first place?
An attempt to stick out and make yourself known, no matter what.

I happen to seriously doubt they would come up with something like that, sell it hard, and it was all just lies.

Read some of this:

http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=269455

I`m gonna give you my two cents on this. My apologies if that offends any one, That includes Shane :)
When OB cues was launched they had quite a few proprietary solutions, I`m guessing they where all patented.
The ferrule on OB 1 and 2, the shafts construction itself and the core used in their butts.
In the second generation of shafts, the lamination technique was changed, now they have changed the core construction, so what`s left is the OB wood ferrule - In my opinion the worst design element of OB cues, as the ferrule itself is not by any means strong enough without the carbonfibre plate, wich people take of when they change tip, becuase they dont read the small print (and really shouldn`t need to)
Or it falls off on a new product, I have seen that multiple times...
So no doubt that Royce was a great guy and passionate about cues, but he was also a businessman and knew that he could not infringe on existing patents and that he needed his own buzzwords to compete with the other big brands.
My honest opinion is that the proprietary methods he came up with, did not make a better product, just a different one, so OB stood out from the competition.
So if OB now is using a regular maple core like Joss or Mezz, that`s not a problem, as long as the quality of the wood itself is good.
The new lamination process for the shafts, seems like a step up to me.
I`m just waiting for OB to ditch the wood ferrule for something simpler and more durable, how about Tomahawk material?
As an outsider I view OB`s biggest challange to be quality controll. The products I have seen (and repaired) lately, has not gone through a good inspection before being shipped out. I have seen warped shafts, glue lines, facing issues, tool marks on shafts, poor laquer and carbonfibre plates falling off.
But generally OB Cues have a good reputation, and I hope they can build on that, by being anal about the quality of their product. I really like the switch to a flat bottom pin and the designs of the cues themselves are classy.
If I can come with a recomandation it would be to offer a butt extension and maybe even a mid cue extension as a stock product.
 
The future owners of OB will have the opportunity to decide if you're correct.
Many of the current owners would tell you that they like the way their OB cue hits AS IS!
So if it ain't broke...
 
Exactly....The way Royce spent all his blood, sweat, and tears to build his cues and the OB name has been TRASHED by Shane & his "consultant" Dale Perry. They are all about quantity and getting them out as fast as they can the way that Perry builds his cheap ass ebay cues "with an OB twist" over QUALITY.

The main reason we (they) were not able to keep up with demand is because the cnc machine that was responsible for over 80% to finish a blank that could be handed over to the inlay & finish guys was down for over 8 months so I was not able to get out a quality product, hence the reason for bringing Perry in to figure out a way to produce a quantity over quality product that is not the way Royce meant for them to be built.

I am not a disgruntled employee that was fired, I simply quit because I was ask to build an inferior product to meet demand that was not the way that Royce himself showed me how to build to uphold the OB name that everybody has come to love. A blank that was built the way Royce designed had NO limitations to inlay design as stated!!!

So sure, take your chance and try an OB cue. As Shane has stated you wont be able to tell the difference, but I am willing to bet $500 to a hole in a donut in time you will certainly notice the difference between a truly quality built OB cue that Royce showed me how to build and the way the Sinnott/Perry "ebay" cue is built.

And for the record, I will no longer be referring them as OB cues. I dont feel that they deserve that name as the B in OB created a legacy that Shane has totally destroyed. Maybe OS, SP, OSP, who cares. Royce is turning over in his grave at the way the company and its employees have been treated. So R.I.P Royce and R.I.P. OB....Change your name as you do not deserve to continue under the legacy of Royce!!!! :angry:

http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=452427

KT,

As a pool player and former employee of OB, you are certainly entitled to your opinion. I would however like to state some facts:

OB has never and will never make a decision that would intentionally hurt the quality of our products.

We have had more demand than capacity since 2012, many years before the machine you mentioned, went down. Demand was not created by a machine being down for 8 months, demand was created by having a great product that lots of people want to buy and strong referrals by word of mouth.

We have never asked any employee to ever built an inferior product.

The products that we build now are built with quality, performance and feel/hit in mind and the vast majority of the players that have an opportunity to try our products are very impressed with OB.

OB will always be OB. We have spent 12 years building a company and a brand that is respected worldwide and we are very proud of the OB name and what it stands for.

There are no plans to ever change the OB name.
 
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