Off center or out of round cue joint

[KMcCready]

Hi guys. I've got an older Joss cue from the mid 80's. When the shaft is screwed on, the joint is slightly off center, though the cue rolls straight. I'm wondering if this is something that can be fixed or should I just leave be since it seems to be true otherwise.

Visually though it has bugged me for 30 years, but don't say anything to the countless money games or tournaments it has won.

Appreciate your thoughts. Though I probably already know the answer. And it may say New Member next to my name, but I've been around.

K

 

[Kim Bye]

Yeah, shouldn't be a problem. Plug the shaft and install a new insert.

 

[Michael Webb]

Hi guys. I've got an older Joss cue from the mid 80's. When the shaft is screwed on, the joint is slightly off center, though the cue rolls straight. I'm wondering if this is something that can be fixed or should I just leave be since it seems to be true otherwise.

Visually though it has bugged me for 30 years, but don't say anything to the countless money games or tournaments it has won.

Appreciate your thoughts. Though I probably already know the answer. And it may say New Member next to my name, but I've been around.

KView attachment 753940

By chance, were you born in Illinois?
I'm a big fan of the gold letter series but the outer diameter of the joints were not as concentric and they are today..
Repairable, yes,
But if you change shafts, you might have the same issue.

 

[KMcCready]

By chance, were you born in Illinois?
I'm a big fan of the gold letter series but the outer diameter of the joints were not as concentric and they are today..
Repairable, yes,
But if you change shafts, you might have the same issue.

That's good to know about these cues. I've seen a lot of earlier versions that appeared out of round, but mostly being a visual issue more than affecting how straight the stick was.

Elmhurst. Don't tell anyone. Lol.

 

[Hard Knock Cues]

I haven't made a 100 cues like these other guys but I had one of my first ones that did the same thing. I think because I sanded the shaft and butt together to make them flush to each other. When i cleaned up the face after finish it threw them off some. I refaced a little at a time and checked the alignment in-between until I got it flush again. Of course another shaft wouldn't match up perfectly but it took care of the problem. Not sure if it's the way to go for you but your post reminded of that.
Just my share
Robert

 

[KMcCready]

I haven't made a 100 cues like these other guys but I had one of my first ones that did the same thing. I think because I sanded the shaft and butt together to make them flush to each other. When i cleaned up the face after finish it threw them off some. I refaced a little at a time and checked the alignment in-between until I got it flush again. Of course another shaft wouldn't match up perfectly but it took care of the problem. Not sure if it's the way to go for you but your post reminded of that.
Just my share
Robert

Only issue I see with that approach is that my Joss has the steel joint. Joss did get back to me finally with a quote, and said I'd have to send the cue and shaft to them, but the turnaround was pretty quick at a week and a half.

I need to ask how they would bring the two sections concentric to one another though. To line up the logos on the butt and shaft I'm sure they simply tighten or loosen the neck joint screw accordingly. I could probably do that now that I think about it.

 

[Michael Webb]

Only issue I see with that approach is that my Joss has the steel joint. Joss did get back to me finally with a quote, and said I'd have to send the cue and shaft to them, but the turnaround was pretty quick at a week and a half.

I need to ask how they would bring the two sections concentric to one another though. To line up the logos on the butt and shaft I'm sure they simply tighten or loosen the neck joint screw accordingly. I could probably do that now that I think about it.

I can answer like this.
Stephen Janes is every bit his Fathers son, and then some.

 

[Michael Webb]

That's good to know about these cues. I've seen a lot of earlier versions that appeared out of round, but mostly being a visual issue more than affecting how straight the stick was.

Elmhurst. Don't tell anyone. Lol.

There are basically 4 ways to machine a stainless joint.
1st- have the finished cue in the lathe using a collet to hold the Forearm a couple of inches in, then machining the tenon for threads. Install the stainless and machine it.
This can be very misleading on whether the joint is actually concentric with the cue.
2nd- Using the steps above and using a finished to sized stainless joint.
Also can be misleading.
3rd- Cue between centers and machine the threads fir a finished to sized joint. Hopefull the joint i.d. matches the o.d.
4th- Thread the tenon and machine the taper to the joint with the cue between centers, the way it was built.
There might be other ways, i don't know all of the possibilities.
My personal choice is between centers.

The way Joss does thier joints now, is pretty darn good.
Cue making continues to go forward with everyone being more aware of the options and choices.

 

[Mensabum]

I can answer like this.
Stephen Janes is every bit his Fathers son, and then some.

Damn Straight!!
Stephen made me a custom LD shaft that hits a ton.
One of the best pieces of wood I've ever had the pleasure of swinging on my Axe!!!