Old cues Helmstetter and Unk cue - Adams, Palmer, and Frank Paradise?

[PoorBoy B]

Here are a few picts on the Helmstetter it has Ivory furrel. The joint and butt cap also look like Ivory but could be some bone not 100% sure. Also I would have to classify it as unchalked. It has bluing on the tip just because it looks like it may have been in a cue case. The other cue has no markings but it has the MOP inlays like the other cue. The wrap was changed out but I'm going to take it off to see if there is anything under the wrap. If anyone can give me some info it would be greatly accepted! Also need a round about value.

 

[FLYINGSNAIL]

Here are a few picts on the Helmstetter it has Ivory furrel. The joint and butt cap also look like Ivory but could be some bone not 100% sure. Also I would have to classify it as unchalked. It has bluing on the tip just because it looks like it may have been in a cue case. The other cue has no markings but it has the MOP inlays like the other cue. The wrap was changed out but I'm going to take it off to see if there is anything under the wrap. If anyone can give me some info it would be greatly accepted! Also need a round about value.

last pic that you got should be an Adam cue. I got one just like it.

 

[FAST_N_LOOSE]

I Think The Unknown Is Either An Adam Or A Palmer From The Late 70's To Mid 80's. Just A Guess Though.