Olhausen video?

[striderlacosse]

Can someone who has an olhausen Grand champion II, 2021 or recent model, post or link a video of the alleged rattle?
I have seen posts, but no search reveals video proof of the 'phenomenom'

 

[boogieman]

Here's a thread I posted not too long ago, no video but a fix of the problem: https://forums.azbilliards.com/threads/olhausen-rattle-is-this-a-good-fix.525094/

If you don't want to read all of that, and the rails are actually cut right (mine weren't the same angles) you can add 3/16" 60 durometer neoprene facings to eliminate most pocket rattle. I'm sure you understand the issue, but wider cushion angles, coupled with soft facings result in the ball being sent into the other side of the pocket, and the shallow angle rattles them out. You can learn to play on them, but it's very frustrating if you take your game seriously. Olhausen is a great table, but the pocket rattle can be more than a bit frustrating. You'll always have a home court advantage if you learn the table and others play you on your table.

This video isn't an Olhausen, but imagine the facing's being a wider angle, the ball will rebound out, even on a well hit shot. Combined with the soft (and quite frankly junk) stock facings, it's like a spring loaded ball rejection system. The 5" Olhausen pockets look very huge but play more like a 4 1/2" pocket that is really unpredictable. Unpredictability can be fun in pool, but not when it's caused by the equipment.

 

[striderlacosse]

The table is supposed to arrive in about 1 month. I'm concerned about the pockets. I'm wondering if I have time to correct it at the factory, by indicating my desire to customize it or modify. Or cancel the order.
I've read all that, and more. One thing that is lacking, is video evidence of this rattle. You would think, as widespread as this condition is known, that there would be some concrete examples. YouTube, forums, etc.
I'm willing to go through the repair mentioned, and I'm considering asking the olhausen rep to fix it before they deliver. I wonder what they would charge?
Wishing I'd bought the diamond now, or an older GC.
Thank you for the links, very helpful. I hope someone will have this table and be willing to show the rattle.
A search on YouTube reveals absolutely nothing, not even a mention. One video shows it after the fix. But not before.

 

[CGM]

There is no discounting that the Olhausen's definitely have a pocket rattle, I believe it has been overly criticized on this forum. Your table will play fine and provide you with years of enjoyment. I believe that most people on here are just drama queens about the "pocket rattle" and frankly a little melodramatic. You and any opponent will be playing on the same table so you will both be dealing with identical conditions.

 

[striderlacosse]

There is no discounting that the Olhausen's definitely have a pocket rattle, I believe it has been overly criticized on this forum. Your table will play fine and provide you with years of enjoyment. I believe that most people on here are just drama queens about the "pocket rattle" and frankly a little melodramatic. You and any opponent will be playing on the same table so you will both be dealing with identical conditions.

Thanks for your view, that makes me more relaxed about it. It's alot to spend on a table, so making sure it's going to be okay.

 

[MurrayNevada]

I have a new 8' Olhausen. Those worried about the "rattle" should just shoot a bit softer on it, a small price to pay even if the pocket rattle stories are not exaggerated here. Nice to just walk into the next room and play anytime I wish. Enjoy your table.

 

[boogieman]

Thanks for your view, that makes me more relaxed about it. It's alot to spend on a table, so making sure it's going to be okay.

They play good, the rattle is there but softer shots and learning where the pocket actually is (where the hole in the slate meets the cushion) helps a ton. They will teach you straight shooting and pocket speed. Honestly, they are fun to play on and if you have the right attitude, the rattle can be funny when playing others. I just got sick of it, was trying to learn 9 ball and position routes that took extra speed and that got frustrating. I have patience in pool, but not when practicing drills and such. If you do decide in the future you want to negate some of the rattle, any mechanic (or you if you're a DIYer) can easily put on the 3/16 neoprene. It takes the neoprene, barge cement, a sharp knife and a way to remove neoprene rubber, such as sandpaper wrapped around a metal file. Probably $50 of materials. It's really not hard and I'm sure you'll enjoy your table, but should the need arise, it's an easy fix while replacing cloth. Honestly I wouldn't worry about it, they are great tables and you'll have a great time.

EDIT: As far as being unpredictable, that was more meant as in my personal case where the angles were jacked up. It's like the table saw was set differently for each side of the pocket rather than the same. You won't have this issue, I'm not sure how this one I have escaped in the wild.