One Pocket shot from over the weekend

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So I was playing some One Pocket over the weekend and my opponent left me with this shot. I made the proposition that if I made the ball that I would win the game. I won. Yes, I know there will be the argurment that it is a foul but that wasn't part of the proposition. Here is the shot, the balls are frozen together and are both frozen to the rail:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pSwGbWFFNPs
 
So if playing by the rules doesn't count, why go to the trouble of shooting that ball and just pick it up and put it in the pocket and say you won?

Reminds me of a guy who came into the pool hall and said I can jump up and touch that pipe and he points to a pipe hanging from the ceiling (no way could he jump up and hit the pipe he was inferring he was going to hit) He gets his bettors and then walks over to the wall where the pipe came to the ground and jumps 2" off the ground and touches the pipe and collects the money.
 
We weren't gambling or anything. There was nothing on the line. It was just one of those shots I remebered from the years of hanging out in pool halls watching proposition bets. It's not like this is something I would attempt in a serious situation. I obviously know it is a foul. Needless to say, everyone watching and the guy I was playing proceeded to try and make the shot for the next 20 minutes. A magician never tells their secrets. Lol
 
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i was just curious what makes it a foul?...i thought if your cue ball was frozen to the object ball you can stroke just like any regular shot
 
where's the foul?

i was just curious what makes it a foul?...i thought if your cue ball was frozen to the object ball you can stroke just like any regular shot

I thought this too. Anybody got a book?:confused:
 
This is why in my original post I said, "I know there will be the argurment that it is a foul." Everyone has their view on frozen ball shots.

From the BCA Rules Website:

3.23 FOULS BY DOUBLE HITS
If the cue ball is touching the required object ball prior to the shot, the player may shoot toward it, providing that any normal stroke is employed. If the cue stick strikes the cue ball more than once on a shot, or if the cue stick is in contact with the cue ball when or after the cue ball contacts an object ball, the shot is a foul. (See Rule 2.20 for judging this kind of shot.) If a third ball is close by, care should be taken not to foul that ball under the first part of this rule.

3.24 PUSH SHOT FOULS
It is a foul if the cue ball is pushed by the cue tip, with contact being maintained for more than the momentary time commensurate with a stroked shot. (Such shots are usually referred to as push shots.)


The question is which stroke is used to make the ball? In this case, I see it as a Push Stroke becasue of the use of the rail and I would call a foul on myself.
 
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So I was playing some One Pocket over the weekend and my opponent left me with this shot. I made the proposition that if I made the ball that I would win the game. I won. Yes, I know there will be the argurment that it is a foul but that wasn't part of the proposition. Here is the shot, the balls are frozen together and are both frozen to the rail:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pSwGbWFFNPs

That's one of my favorite trick bankshots and there is no foul involved.
Jack up slightly and aim into the rail at about 11:00 with right hand english.
Very nice shot.
 
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