Open Tournament Questions...

Zims Rack

Promoting the Cueing Arts
Silver Member
I'm sure many of you like to travel a little to play in a good Open Tournament occassionally. I have a few concerns that need some input from other players.

The tournament is 9-Ball, race to 7,9 or 11 (undecided), double elimination, OPEN to any player wanting to pay the entry fee. It would be at a Grand Opening for a pool room from a well known, Triple A level player, BCA Open Champion and a well liked person in the St. Louis area.

What is a good Entry Fee to pay? (90% payout)
$50
$75
$100
$125
Would it be beneficial to have cue repair and cue sales from various cuemakers available?
What about a spectators fee? Charge for spectators or not?
$5
$10
$20
How many of you would make the trip to St. Louis for an event like this?

Obviously marketing will play a huge role in the price of things and it will be well marketed. Flyers, billiard websites, forums, other Open Tournaments, word of mouth.

Like I said, just curious what you all would like to see.
 
From a room owner

Zims Rack said:
I'm sure many of you like to travel a little to play in a good Open Tournament occassionally. I have a few concerns that need some input from other players.

The tournament is 9-Ball, race to 7,9 or 11 (undecided), double elimination, OPEN to any player wanting to pay the entry fee. It would be at a Grand Opening for a pool room from a well known, Triple A level player, BCA Open Champion and a well liked person in the St. Louis area.

What is a good Entry Fee to pay? (90% payout)
$50
$75
$100
$125
Would it be beneficial to have cue repair and cue sales from various cuemakers available?
What about a spectators fee? Charge for spectators or not?
$5
$10
$20
How many of you would make the trip to St. Louis for an event like this?

Obviously marketing will play a huge role in the price of things and it will be well marketed. Flyers, billiard websites, forums, other Open Tournaments, word of mouth.

Like I said, just curious what you all would like to see.

100 PERCENT PAYOUT PLUS ADDED.
$60 ENTRY
FREE
 
Zims Rack said:
I'm sure many of you like to travel a little to play in a good Open Tournament occassionally. I have a few concerns that need some input from other players.

The tournament is 9-Ball, race to 7,9 or 11 (undecided), double elimination, OPEN to any player wanting to pay the entry fee. It would be at a Grand Opening for a pool room from a well known, Triple A level player, BCA Open Champion and a well liked person in the St. Louis area.

What is a good Entry Fee to pay? (90% payout)
$50
$75
$100
$125
I would pay any, but I think a 50 or 75 entry fee is going to get more local or regional players.
Would it be beneficial to have cue repair and cue sales from various cuemakers available?
Absolutely
What about a spectators fee? Charge for spectators or not?
No, but to get them there and keep them there, maybe have a nice cue for a door prize for spectators, must be present to win.
How many of you would make the trip to St. Louis for an event like this?
Yes, I definitely would, just let us know when it is... my son lives in Belleville, so it's a No Hotel Bill trip for me! :)
Obviously marketing will play a huge role in the price of things and it will be well marketed. Flyers, billiard websites, forums, other Open Tournaments, word of mouth.
When you start promoting, keep me in mind. I'd be happy to distribute flyers to pool rooms in my area (Eastern Oklahoma, Western and NW Arkansas)
Like I said, just curious what you all would like to see.


Later,
Bob
 
nfty9er said:
100 PERCENT PAYOUT PLUS ADDED.
$60 ENTRY
FREE
If it's a 100% payout, we would charge $x.xx per match/per player to cover all fees. That way the players advancing are the ones paying for table time. Make sense?
What's reasonable added $?
$500
$1000
$1500
$2000

Thanks,
Zim
 
I am confused

Zims Rack said:
If it's a 100% payout, we would charge $x.xx per match/per player to cover all fees. That way the players advancing are the ones paying for table time. Make sense?
What's reasonable added $?
$500
$1000
$1500
$2000

Thanks,
Zim

Confirm it is a grand opening type thing. Man you don't charge for anything, add at least 500. This is all advertising and marketing for the future. You want to make an impression. Believe me if you have food and beer you will make more than enough on sales for the day or two. This day is not about the room making money. It is about the room making a reputation.
 
open

A 50$ entry plus a 5$ green fee sounds good with a calcutta and $500 to $1000 added race to 7 winners race to 5 losers makes for good time with matches if you go any longer you will run late into the night. or you can cut off the first day when the final 16 are decided and start them off the next day, also a second calcutta is a possibility. should make for a good turn out
 
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If it was me doing the tournament i would make it like this

50 or 60$ entry fee with 10$ green fee. 100% payback of prize funds


Race to 9 or 11, anything else is too short. And make the finals to 13 or 15.

As for added $ depends on if your doing a calcutta or not. if your doing a calcutta, make it 500$ for every 32 plays. If no calcutta, then make it like 1000$ min.

Also having a set first prize might help too, for like 1500, or 2000$ depending on what you think the outcome might be.

as for cue repair, yea that is a plus if the pool hall has its own repair shop, or someone who can bring a mobil shop there to do Tips and shafts.

dave
 
StormHotRod300 said:
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As for added $ depends on if your doing a calcutta or not. if your doing a calcutta, make it 500$ for every 32 plays. If no calcutta, then make it like 1000$ min.
[...]
dave

What is the reasoning here?

mike page
fargo
 
mikepage said:
What is the reasoning here?

mike page
fargo
I think the reason is because if you have a calcutta, it will generate more money for players. If you don't have a calcutta, then you would want to increase the "added" money to compensate.

Zim
 
Zims Rack said:
If it's a 100% payout, we would charge $x.xx per match/per player to cover all fees. That way the players advancing are the ones paying for table time. Make sense?
What's reasonable added $?
$500
$1000
$1500
$2000

Thanks,
Zim

You said it is a promotion to kick off a new pool room. The owner needs to get out his check book to cover the fees not the players and add some money. It's called advertising. On top of that he can put out a nice free buffet for the players and everybody who comes.
 
Thoughts ...

Our Pool rooms add $500 for a $20-25 entry fee (32 players).
If entry is going to be $50-60, $1,000 needs to be added,
or a calcutta, or both. The better the tournament, the more
the word will get spread about the room. Business can buy
advertising banners to help offset costs. Free buffet is not
necessary, but at least offer good specials during the tournament
that don't cost an arm and a leg. There is a cuemaker/repair
person from Salina, Ks. named Gene (afro-american) that does
a super job and has a portable lathe setup. He does tournaments,
and usually plays in them too. Real nice guy.
 
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