i had one once, i bought it from bobby hunter in about 89 or 90 for $1600 it was a 4pt cue with a good amount of inlays etc in the butt, nice looking cue, shafts were stiff because of the taper, the workmanship was great, points all even, inlays etc. problem was the butt diameter was huge, i played with it before I bought it, i was playing with a SW at the time and the stiff hit was cool, I thought I could get used to the cue but never could, it was just too fat-I adjust to cues quickly more often than not, this cue was built in about 86 or 87. I loaned it to a friend who is a very good player and he couldnt play with it either, nobody could, I ended up trading it for a couple Ginacues(great deal for me). I dont know if the fatt butt was a special order-it must have been because the other joss west cues i've had 4-5 of them-plane janes were normal.