JV, would be happy if you played where I do. Vids are good tools, but there is nothing like being at the table. There are many players out there, that would greatly appreciate the help.
Opinions Regarding Offering Advice To Young Players?
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excellent... I couldn't agree more.
The 'choice' is the key word imo... I never just tell people what they "are doing wrong". How pompous would that be...lol. I preface everything with, "are you open to", "or are interested in"... Approach is everything.
There's other more delicate ways to test the waters rather full steam cannon ball.
Robert.Beak
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how much is it?
what form of payment?
and is there a possibility of courses online?
Biloxi Boy
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What I think it boils down to is common sense and tact. You need to be able to "read" people to determine who will be receptive. If a person appears receptive, other variables will dictate the manner in which information is best communicated. "Know the person" is probably the key here.
What I also am reading, and have experienced myself, is that the world is plagued with personality types who exist secure in the knowledge that God blessed them with all of the knowledge in existence about pool/bowling/dancing and that their primary mission in life is to pass this information on to the less fortunate while at the same time impressing everyone within earshot with their vast ability. No one wants to hear these idiots at all, and it is impossible to "learn" from them. I have no solution to such behavior except to ignore it or not make myself available.
As to older/somewhat experienced players, I would only give them advice if I knew them beyond a casual basis. Given my skill level, however, I should never dispense any advice beyond basic concepts.
What I also am reading, and have experienced myself, is that the world is plagued with personality types who exist secure in the knowledge that God blessed them with all of the knowledge in existence about pool/bowling/dancing and that their primary mission in life is to pass this information on to the less fortunate while at the same time impressing everyone within earshot with their vast ability. No one wants to hear these idiots at all, and it is impossible to "learn" from them. I have no solution to such behavior except to ignore it or not make myself available.
As to older/somewhat experienced players, I would only give them advice if I knew them beyond a casual basis. Given my skill level, however, I should never dispense any advice beyond basic concepts.
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Guy Manges
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Respect
Even our Mosconi cup team couldn't winn without Respect for a coach. Good luck.
Even our Mosconi cup team couldn't winn without Respect for a coach. Good luck.
My learning curve in pool started out very slow as I grew up playing on my home table as opposed to a pool room where I could observe skilled players. Although there were no local pool rooms in my hometown, luckily it was a college town that had a number of pool tables on campus for the students. I hung out there alot during my high school years. Although I was already better than virtually all of them, there was one player in particular who did pass on some extremely valuable advice to me which benefited me greatly. I’m just trying to do my part by paying it forward to other younger, inexperienced players that I can clearly see have that burning passion to improve but need some help.
Robert.Beak
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Then you need to live by the principle of "give advice only if you are asked."
Sometimes it's hard for me to remain silent in some other aspects of life, where I am a professional
If I give someone advice it is usually only someone I have played in league or in tournaments. Even then its rare that I will give someone advice if they dont ask. One example is a player on another team who I have played a few times, before our game he mentioned jokingly that he hates playing me cause he always gets his butt kicked. Well later on in the night he was playing on another table and knocked the cue ball off the table while breaking, something he often does. I suggested that he keep the rear of his cue lower when breaking to solve that problem, weeks later he was greatly improved at keeping the ball on the table. In this case I think that he was completely unaware that he was the cause of his flying cue balls and probably just thought he had bad luck. He didnt know he could do something to alleviate his problem so he never sought advice. I am guessing this happens a lot. If there were better players out there offering to give me advice I would certainly be open to listening, I dont mean the 1 guy in every room saying "you shoulda played this shot like this", I think every room has one of those but rather the type who has valuable information to improve your game. I think many of us dont realize we may be doing something wrong.
LOL, reminds me of the guy that told me I had shot it wrong. After my scotch doubles partner left me hooked, I kicked the ball in and left her perfect shape. The young man at the bar insisted on interrupting our game to tell me what I should have done. I simply smiled and inquired if he played for money. He did and was so clueless (and inebriated) that I only charged him the one $20 game.
Biloxi Boy
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The subject of etiquette brings this subject into a different light. I am not sure that "advice" or "instruction" are correct terms when addressing etiquette lapses, because I think we have every right to inform someone of breaches of etiqutte -- whether they want to hear it or not. For example -- players who stand on top of the table while not shooting and engage in other types of sharking -- intentional or unintentional -- need to be told what they are doing and to cut it out. I am not saying that it cannot be done in a nice way -- I am just saying speaking to someone about an etiquette issue is different from bringing up skill issues.
This. Ask if they want any tips, but if they don't want any advice, I just stfu.
One time I felt compelled to give unsolicited lessons after some kids sent the cb flying off the table 3 times! I told them to aim for the center of the ball, and showed them how to line up a shot.
It was honestly making me anxious that they would break something. The room owner didn't say anything, but it was really a matter of disrespecting the property that made me want to say something.
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If you're addressing me, that comment is in the context of random beginners at the OP's room. You mentioned elsewhere you are a professional in other disciplines. I am curious as to this and especially your background in pool. What pool do you know? Why do you want to learn pool? Do you even like pool?
If you draw blanks on any of those,Youtube is saturated with trick shots to high stakes matches. Start there.
Robert.Beak
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Hello! thank's for answering! Are you asking me about types of billiards or methods of playing?
Good. YouTube is a good option, can you advise who to subscribe to? If it's not difficult for you! I would start with the theory.
Yes, I like American billiards. I just want to play for fun.but i have to play well. I like it. I like to do self-improvement!