Philippine National Pool Campionships start tomorrow
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Hmmm... This seems a bit odd...
We could be watching 2 players from the Losers' Bracket fighting it out for
the Championship. Everyone had a "2 and out" except for the last 2 men
from the Winners' side, Antonio "Nikoy" Lining and Dennis "Robocop" Orcullo.
One loss and it's bye-bye time for these 2. What a way to reward players
who weathered the onslaught...
Hmmm... This seems a bit odd...
We could be watching 2 players from the Losers' Bracket fighting it out for
the Championship. Everyone had a "2 and out" except for the last 2 men
from the Winners' side, Antonio "Nikoy" Lining and Dennis "Robocop" Orcullo.
One loss and it's bye-bye time for these 2. What a way to reward players
who weathered the onslaught...
When will they be playing next? What time?
Latest updates... Manalo over Pagulayan / Corteza over Gallego / Corteza over Orcullo
Lee Van wins over Gallego while Manalo prevails over Alex Pagulayan (sorry Phoebe).
So the final 4 players were Corteza, Manalo, Lining and Orcullo. These 4 players I believe are already assured of joining the 2007 WPC to be held in Manila again.
Then Corteza wins over Orcullo 11 to 10. Oh boy, this might have been quite a match!!! It is a bit unfair though for Dennis because only 1 loss and he was out while Corteza already lost 1 game and yet is in the finals.
No word yet on who won or is winning in the Lining vs Manalo match. I hope Manalo wins. We have not heard about him winning any tournament for a long time. I would not want such a talented player such as him to fade into obscurity. The winner of the Lining vs Manalo match will face Corteza in the finals.
Lee Van wins over Gallego while Manalo prevails over Alex Pagulayan (sorry Phoebe).
So the final 4 players were Corteza, Manalo, Lining and Orcullo. These 4 players I believe are already assured of joining the 2007 WPC to be held in Manila again.
Then Corteza wins over Orcullo 11 to 10. Oh boy, this might have been quite a match!!! It is a bit unfair though for Dennis because only 1 loss and he was out while Corteza already lost 1 game and yet is in the finals.
No word yet on who won or is winning in the Lining vs Manalo match. I hope Manalo wins. We have not heard about him winning any tournament for a long time. I would not want such a talented player such as him to fade into obscurity. The winner of the Lining vs Manalo match will face Corteza in the finals.
It is Manalo vs Corteza in the finals!!!!
Just read that Manalo won over Lining and will now face Corteza in the finals!!! What a strong comeback from Marlon. Losing one game from the winner's side then winning 4 straight games yesterday and now 2 games today over Alex Pagulayan and Antonio Lining.
Who do you think will win? I am hoping for Marlon Manalo to win this but Lee Van is showing everybody that he has what it takes to be the next pool superstar out of the Philippines.
Just read that Manalo won over Lining and will now face Corteza in the finals!!! What a strong comeback from Marlon. Losing one game from the winner's side then winning 4 straight games yesterday and now 2 games today over Alex Pagulayan and Antonio Lining.
Who do you think will win? I am hoping for Marlon Manalo to win this but Lee Van is showing everybody that he has what it takes to be the next pool superstar out of the Philippines.
What type of crap format is this? Orcullo and Lining make it all the way to the semifinals with zero losses, only for both to be booted immediately from the tournament after their first losses in the final 4. Meanwhile, Manalo and Corteza advances to the finals both with one loss each?
If they do double elimination all the way to the semifinals, why not fully carry it out all the way through? It's not like they'll be adding 10 more matches. I'd understand switching to single elimination for the final 16...but the final 4? That's garbage.
If they do double elimination all the way to the semifinals, why not fully carry it out all the way through? It's not like they'll be adding 10 more matches. I'd understand switching to single elimination for the final 16...but the final 4? That's garbage.
Latest articles..
http://www.billiardphilippines.com/bscp_national_open.htm
(FLASH REPORT)
Manalo Clash Corteza in Finals
It was a intense battle for the two greatest young pool in planet. Orcullo close to win in the last racks but failed to shoot the No. 6 ball allowing Corteza to clean up the table.
Dennis Orcullo rallied trailling at 9-7 clustered three straith racks to reach the hill, what a fantastic carom shot in the no. 5 Ball but miss the 6 allowing Lee Van Corteza Clean the table.
Finals will be Lee Van Corteza vs. Marlon Manalo, 3rd and 4th battle will be Dennis Orcullo and Nikoy Lining, and in Girls, Iris Ranola and Mary Ann Basas, and in 3rd and 4th place its Rubilen Amit and Jingle David
by: Marlon Bernardino -
03-30-07
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MANALO OVERPOWERED LINING TO REACH THE FINALS
BY: MARLON BERNARDINO
“MARVELOUS” MARLON MANALO overpowered Japan based Antonio “Nickoy” Lining (11-5) to booked his seat in the finals of the 2nd BSCP National Pool Championships late Friday at the Ninoy Aquino Stadium in Malate, Manila.
The 30-years-old Manalo, playing under the banner of Puyat Sports enjoyed a 5-1 lead in the race-to-11, alternate breaks format. Lining manage to close the match at 6-4 count winning the 10th frame in one of the TV table matches. But the more determine Manalo took the next four racks to reach the hill.
“Maraming na mintis si Nickoy (Lining) at pumabor din ‘yung bola sa akin.” said Manalo who earlier beat defending champion Alex “The Lion” Pagulayan (9-7) to reach semi-final round.
Manalo, fresh from a brief Euro Tour this year, winning both strong third place finish in the Switzerland and Czech Republic won his opening match with Jimmy Cheng (9-2), Emilio Martinez (9-6) before losing to Negros Billiard Stable (NBS) bet Godofredo “Boy” Ducanes (6-9).
In the one-loss side, Manalo need to past Jundel Mazon (9-3), Eduardo “Pikoy” Villanueva (9-3), Jomar de Ocampo (9-5), Joven Bustamante (9-4), Pagulayan (9-7) and Lining (11-5) to advance in the final round today, Saturday, in the event presented by San Miguel Corporation which offers P500,000 to the champion.
Manalo will face the survivor Dennis “Robocop” Orcollo and Lee Van “Slayer” Corteza tussle late night.
Unlike Orcollo, another undefeated player before the final four, Corteza who loss to Carlo Biado (6-9) in the third round of winner’s brackets bounce back in contention by beating Rodrigo Geronimo (9-8), Antonio “Ga-Ga” Gabica (9-5), Jharome Peña (9-6), Ducanes (9-6), Ramil “Bebeng” Gallego (9-6) to face Orcollo in the last seat for the final berths.
Billiards and Snooker Congress of the Philippines (BSCP) president Ernesto “Ernie” Fajardo who watching the match yesterday along with Atty. Manoling Chan said that the sole champion in this event would get a possible slot in this year’s 2007 Guinness Asian 9-ball tour which kicks off on April 20 in Jakarta, Indonesia.
“Itong National Championships ang masasabi nating pinaka importanteng event ng BSCP. Isa itong basis para madetermina ang miyembro natin sa Southeast Asian Games at ‘yung ipapadala ng BSCP sa Guinness Asian 9-ball tour.” Fajardo added.
Fajardo added that this year’s BSCP National Pool Championships is one of the basis or criteria to select the member of the Philippine Team bound in Thailand’s Southeast Asian Games.
BSCP chair and Raya Sports presdeint Yen Makabenta earlier said last Thursday that the “last 6” player (Manalo, Corteza, Orcollo, Pagulayan, Lining and Gallego) already assured slot for the November World Pool Championships here in Manila.
Corteza and Pagulayan already earned the slot for the WPC according to Makabenta. Corteza topped the 2006 All Japan Championships while Pagulayan is the 2004 Taiwan WPC winner. (MARLON BERNARDINO).
Note:
Mary Ann Basas against the winner of the match Iris Ranola/ Jingle David (finals, Saturday)
Rubilen Amit against the loser of the match Iris Ranola/ Jingle David (battle for third)
BASAS BEAT AMIT ENTER BSCP WOMENS FINALS
BY: MARLON BERNARDINO
MARY-ANN BASAS, the pride of Davao City relied the scratch in the break of tournament favorite Rubilen “Bingkay” Amit in the ninth racks to seal the 7-4 victory and book his seat in the finals of 1st BSCP National Pool Championships in Ninoy Aquino Stadium in Malate, Manila.
The game was tied at 4 all when Amit commit a scratch in his break in the ninth racks allowing Basas to clean up the table. The latter’s took the next to racks for a 7-4 victory.
“Suwerte lamang po sa kalagitnaan ng laro.” Said Basas, who has 3-1 record against Amit in their head to head tournament matches.
Actually Amit had an impressive start by taking 3-0 racks but miss the No.8 ball in the 4th racks that gave Basas a chance to cut the 3-1 lead.
“Krusyal ‘yung 4th racks nag mintis ako sa No.8 ball, sayang 4-0 na sana. Doon nakabawi si Mary Ann. Saka ‘yung scratch ko sa 9th racks doon nakalamang si Mary Ann” the 25-years-old Cebuana Amit said. She beat earlier Maria Mildred Almero (9-5), Minse Grace Mercurio (7-0) and Jingle David (7-0) before losing to Basas (4-7) in yesterday’s cross-over single semi-final round.
The 27-years-old Basas on the other hand, nipped Ian De Luna (9-1), wife of 2006 Doha Asian games 9-ball silver medalist Jeffrey De Luna and Johanna Dee (7-1) before losing to Iris Ranola (6-7). Then Basas keep her hope alive by beating Mercurio (7-2) to face Amit for the first finals berths.
In other final four pair yesterday were Ranola versus David, the survivor of Ranola vs David will face Basas in the finals schedule today, Saturday.
According to tournament director Mario Aquino, the loser’s of Ranola and David tussle will collide Amit for the consolation prize in the battle of third.
Aquino added that the champion will take home P200,000, the runner-up will receive P100,000, third place receive P50,000 while 4th place pocketed P25,000.
P10,000 each for the 5th-6th place while P5,000 each for the 7th-8th place.
by: Marlon Bernardino -
03-30-07
http://www.billiardphilippines.com/bscp_national_open.htm
(FLASH REPORT)
Manalo Clash Corteza in Finals
It was a intense battle for the two greatest young pool in planet. Orcullo close to win in the last racks but failed to shoot the No. 6 ball allowing Corteza to clean up the table.
Dennis Orcullo rallied trailling at 9-7 clustered three straith racks to reach the hill, what a fantastic carom shot in the no. 5 Ball but miss the 6 allowing Lee Van Corteza Clean the table.
Finals will be Lee Van Corteza vs. Marlon Manalo, 3rd and 4th battle will be Dennis Orcullo and Nikoy Lining, and in Girls, Iris Ranola and Mary Ann Basas, and in 3rd and 4th place its Rubilen Amit and Jingle David
by: Marlon Bernardino -
03-30-07
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MANALO OVERPOWERED LINING TO REACH THE FINALS
BY: MARLON BERNARDINO
“MARVELOUS” MARLON MANALO overpowered Japan based Antonio “Nickoy” Lining (11-5) to booked his seat in the finals of the 2nd BSCP National Pool Championships late Friday at the Ninoy Aquino Stadium in Malate, Manila.
The 30-years-old Manalo, playing under the banner of Puyat Sports enjoyed a 5-1 lead in the race-to-11, alternate breaks format. Lining manage to close the match at 6-4 count winning the 10th frame in one of the TV table matches. But the more determine Manalo took the next four racks to reach the hill.
“Maraming na mintis si Nickoy (Lining) at pumabor din ‘yung bola sa akin.” said Manalo who earlier beat defending champion Alex “The Lion” Pagulayan (9-7) to reach semi-final round.
Manalo, fresh from a brief Euro Tour this year, winning both strong third place finish in the Switzerland and Czech Republic won his opening match with Jimmy Cheng (9-2), Emilio Martinez (9-6) before losing to Negros Billiard Stable (NBS) bet Godofredo “Boy” Ducanes (6-9).
In the one-loss side, Manalo need to past Jundel Mazon (9-3), Eduardo “Pikoy” Villanueva (9-3), Jomar de Ocampo (9-5), Joven Bustamante (9-4), Pagulayan (9-7) and Lining (11-5) to advance in the final round today, Saturday, in the event presented by San Miguel Corporation which offers P500,000 to the champion.
Manalo will face the survivor Dennis “Robocop” Orcollo and Lee Van “Slayer” Corteza tussle late night.
Unlike Orcollo, another undefeated player before the final four, Corteza who loss to Carlo Biado (6-9) in the third round of winner’s brackets bounce back in contention by beating Rodrigo Geronimo (9-8), Antonio “Ga-Ga” Gabica (9-5), Jharome Peña (9-6), Ducanes (9-6), Ramil “Bebeng” Gallego (9-6) to face Orcollo in the last seat for the final berths.
Billiards and Snooker Congress of the Philippines (BSCP) president Ernesto “Ernie” Fajardo who watching the match yesterday along with Atty. Manoling Chan said that the sole champion in this event would get a possible slot in this year’s 2007 Guinness Asian 9-ball tour which kicks off on April 20 in Jakarta, Indonesia.
“Itong National Championships ang masasabi nating pinaka importanteng event ng BSCP. Isa itong basis para madetermina ang miyembro natin sa Southeast Asian Games at ‘yung ipapadala ng BSCP sa Guinness Asian 9-ball tour.” Fajardo added.
Fajardo added that this year’s BSCP National Pool Championships is one of the basis or criteria to select the member of the Philippine Team bound in Thailand’s Southeast Asian Games.
BSCP chair and Raya Sports presdeint Yen Makabenta earlier said last Thursday that the “last 6” player (Manalo, Corteza, Orcollo, Pagulayan, Lining and Gallego) already assured slot for the November World Pool Championships here in Manila.
Corteza and Pagulayan already earned the slot for the WPC according to Makabenta. Corteza topped the 2006 All Japan Championships while Pagulayan is the 2004 Taiwan WPC winner. (MARLON BERNARDINO).
Note:
Mary Ann Basas against the winner of the match Iris Ranola/ Jingle David (finals, Saturday)
Rubilen Amit against the loser of the match Iris Ranola/ Jingle David (battle for third)
BASAS BEAT AMIT ENTER BSCP WOMENS FINALS
BY: MARLON BERNARDINO
MARY-ANN BASAS, the pride of Davao City relied the scratch in the break of tournament favorite Rubilen “Bingkay” Amit in the ninth racks to seal the 7-4 victory and book his seat in the finals of 1st BSCP National Pool Championships in Ninoy Aquino Stadium in Malate, Manila.
The game was tied at 4 all when Amit commit a scratch in his break in the ninth racks allowing Basas to clean up the table. The latter’s took the next to racks for a 7-4 victory.
“Suwerte lamang po sa kalagitnaan ng laro.” Said Basas, who has 3-1 record against Amit in their head to head tournament matches.
Actually Amit had an impressive start by taking 3-0 racks but miss the No.8 ball in the 4th racks that gave Basas a chance to cut the 3-1 lead.
“Krusyal ‘yung 4th racks nag mintis ako sa No.8 ball, sayang 4-0 na sana. Doon nakabawi si Mary Ann. Saka ‘yung scratch ko sa 9th racks doon nakalamang si Mary Ann” the 25-years-old Cebuana Amit said. She beat earlier Maria Mildred Almero (9-5), Minse Grace Mercurio (7-0) and Jingle David (7-0) before losing to Basas (4-7) in yesterday’s cross-over single semi-final round.
The 27-years-old Basas on the other hand, nipped Ian De Luna (9-1), wife of 2006 Doha Asian games 9-ball silver medalist Jeffrey De Luna and Johanna Dee (7-1) before losing to Iris Ranola (6-7). Then Basas keep her hope alive by beating Mercurio (7-2) to face Amit for the first finals berths.
In other final four pair yesterday were Ranola versus David, the survivor of Ranola vs David will face Basas in the finals schedule today, Saturday.
According to tournament director Mario Aquino, the loser’s of Ranola and David tussle will collide Amit for the consolation prize in the battle of third.
Aquino added that the champion will take home P200,000, the runner-up will receive P100,000, third place receive P50,000 while 4th place pocketed P25,000.
P10,000 each for the 5th-6th place while P5,000 each for the 7th-8th place.
by: Marlon Bernardino -
03-30-07
jsp said:
Our main reason in implementing that is to not confuse the viewer when it comes to the final four. The normal viewer finds the concept of a double-elimination ladder difficult to comprehend as it is. In a normal double-elim stepladder, trying to explain to a layman viewer who just lost the match before a final is going to face the guy again because he won the loser's bracket final is just too confusing.
Hey, I totally understand. I do hate it when people cut matches to race to 7 for TV. It's unfair for the player. But the semifinals-final cutoff makes it simpler for a viewer to understand what's at stake and is a good compromise, especially when you consider that Loser's bracket players play more matches to get to where they are.
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cuycuy said:
Cuycuy, though your system may be flavored with good intentions, try
explaining to Dennis and Nikoy why they didn't get a second chance like the
others. We need to educate the general pool public how a double-elim
stepladder works, and they don't have to be rocket scientists to understand the
concept. Just like what Billie Jean said, "Fair is fair!"
I think the format is just fair. the players on the losers' bracket have to play more opponents (due to ties in W-L) inorder to reach the final four while the undefeated players have already the luxury of waiting for their semis matchups.
I don't think it should be a big deal that the final 4 is changed to single elimination. All the players were probably been told exactly how it's going to be.
You can not complain after the fact.
You can not complain after the fact.
I am bummed......but it's ok.....on to squeezing the next tournament!!! lol
My pick, VanVan will take this one. VanVan took out Orcullo which makes me think he's gotta be in dead stroke.
But, Manalo is pretty steady so I'm about 52% VanVan, 48% Manalo
My pick, VanVan will take this one. VanVan took out Orcullo which makes me think he's gotta be in dead stroke.
But, Manalo is pretty steady so I'm about 52% VanVan, 48% Manalo
The format was fair as all the participants were informed of it before the start of the tournament. What is worst, to me, is when organizers advertise a true double-elimination tournament then have a single long race for the finals instead of having the winner side player be twice-to-beat. huh?!!gopi-1 said:Cuycuy, though your system may be flavored with good intentions, try
explaining to Dennis and Nikoy why they didn't get a second chance like the
others. We need to educate the general pool public how a double-elim
stepladder works, and they don't have to be rocket scientists to understand the
concept. Just like what Billie Jean said, "Fair is fair!"
Congratulations are in order for the organizers, they handled the whole event, and some, superbly!