Pivoting and CTE

I thought you were just bringing it down to a level YOU could understand.

How about some break and run contests on video Lou? I will play you Fargo or One Pocket. We can do the one pocket according to Jay Helfert's rules.

I will bet $20 a match.

I'll bring the popcorn.
 
I thought you were just bringing it down to a level YOU could understand.

How about some break and run contests on video Lou? I will play you Fargo or One Pocket. We can do the one pocket according to Jay Helfert's rules.

I will bet $20 a match.


John, there are several reasons I'm not interested in doing this, so thanks, but no thanks.

However (just as a passing observation): you sure seem to like to bark a lot when you are far, far away, what with the $100 a game the next time we meet challenge, and now this. Funny how you get soooooo much quieter in person.

http://www.youtube.com/user/hogspeed?feature=mhw4#p/u

Like I said, just a passing observation and all that :-)

Lou Figueroa
no, no
don't thank me
 
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Bug list for Windows CTE

Wasn't there a flavor of Windows released called "Windows CTE"?

(Oh wait, my bad, that was "Windows CE".)

:p
-Sean

I can see where this is going. There aren't any issues with CTE, those are features! :D

Hu

For those in I.T. (or familiar with some of the terms used in I.T.), I offer this:

Can you imagine the BugTraq articles on these "features"? Actually, I think the bug-tracking mechanism for Windows CTE would be more appropriately called "BobbleTraq".

The BobbleTraq articles would probably read something like this:

BobbleTraq ID 123456: "User implementing 'hip pivot' breaks hip."
BobbleTraq ID 873782: "Inebriated user pivots, loses balance, and pivot continues uninterrupted to the point of user falling over. [Runaway Pivot]"
BobbleTraq ID 628385: "FEATURE REQUEST: Documentation, when written, needs to point out that pivoting is not necessary when lagging, when applying a pen onto paper to begin writing, when inserting a poker into the fireplace to move a log, when reinserting the dipstick after checking oil, etc."
BobbleTraq ID 100923: "User working in pizza parlor utilizing pivot to insert pizza spatula into pizza oven, continues to hit handle of pizza spatula against side of oven, repeated damage of which results in breakage of handle. Cost of replacement pizza spatula taken out of user's pay by boss."
[...]

As you can see, these are some pretty serious bugs... I mean, "features"!

:D
-Sean
 
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For those in I.T. (or familiar with some of the terms used in I.T.), I offer this:

Can you imagine the BugTraq articles on these "features"? Actually, I think the bug-tracking mechanism for Windows CTE would be more appropriately called "BobbleTraq".

The BobbleTraq articles would probably read something like this:

BobbleTraq ID 123456: "User implementing 'hip pivot' breaks hip."
BobbleTraq ID 873782: "Inebriated user pivots, loses balance, and pivot continues uninterrupted to the point of user falling over. [Runaway Pivot]"
BobbleTraq ID 628385: "FEATURE REQUEST: Documentation, when written, needs to point out that pivoting is not necessary when lagging, when applying a pen onto paper to begin writing, when inserting a poker into the fireplace to move a log, when reinserting the dipstick after checking oil, etc."
BobbleTraq ID 100923: "User working in pizza parlor utilizing pivot to insert pizza spatula into pizza oven, continues to hit handle of pizza spatula against side of oven, repeated damage of which results in breakage of handle. Cost of replacement pizza spatula taken out of user's pay by boss."
[...]

As you can see, these are some pretty serious bugs... I mean, "features"!

:D
-Sean

I have had enough of this. That's it! I propose that you IT pool playing types get your own sub-forum. :barf::barf:
 
John, there are several reasons I'm not interested in doing this, so thanks, but no thanks.

However (just as a passing observation): you sure seem to like to bark a lot when you are far, far away, what with the $100 a game the next time we meet challenge, and now this. Funny how you get soooooo much quieter in person.

http://www.youtube.com/user/hogspeed?feature=mhw4#p/u

Like I said, just a passing observation and all that :-)

Lou Figueroa
no, no
don't thank me

Not sure what you are trying to show here. I offered to FREEZE up the money long before the show.

Then when that all went south because Eric couldn't keep his mouth shut I gave up and decided that it wasn't worth it and said CLEARLY AND PLAINLY on here BEFORE the match that I was not going to play and he didn't need to bother coming to my booth.

You sat RIGHT THERE when I told him he is an ASSHOLE to his face. Speaking of not "doing anything".

You really are the master of spin. Seriously.

Let's you and me freeze up $500 RIGHT NOW - I will Paypal mine to Anyone we agree on to be a neutral party to hold the money. Then the very next time we meet if we don't play in 24 hours and the other guy is standing at the table ready to play - the player who doesn't show forfeits the cash.

Do we have a bet? Why are you such a dick now? It's funny I thought we were cool and in person you are cool but online you are a world class *****.

I am sorry that it vexes you SO MUCH that other people are getting enjoyment out of Hal Houle's aiming systems. That's something you will have to work out on your own. Bums you out that you can't beat me with logic either so you resort to insults and obfuscation as referenced by the video and your "spin" on it.

In this video Louser I did EXACTLY what I said I was going to do.
 
Mike, John says he'll be at the DCC next year. Any chance you'll make the trek? Popcorn and suds (a match made in heaven) on me.

Lou Figueroa

Now you see, this is a prime example of your complete FAILURE to comprehend what I write.

I said I am going to TRY to make it to DCC.

If I let this statement of yours slide you will build it into something that I OBLIGATED to and then try to use it to say that I didn't go to DCC just to duck you. I offered DCC as the NEXT place you and I are LIKELY to be in the same venue IF I can make it.

Jeeze what is with you?
 
John, there are several reasons I'm not interested in doing this, so thanks, but no thanks.

However (just as a passing observation): you sure seem to like to bark a lot when you are far, far away, what with the $100 a game the next time we meet challenge, and now this. Funny how you get soooooo much quieter in person.

http://www.youtube.com/user/hogspeed?feature=mhw4#p/u

Like I said, just a passing observation and all that :-)

Lou Figueroa
no, no
don't thank me

Which is exactly WHY I offered to match up in something that we can do EVEN IF we are FAR AWAY.

Should be easy money for you Lou. With you being the superior player it's free lunch money - everyone gets to see how great you play and how bad I play and therefore both videos stand as respective testaments to whatever styles we advocate.

Or do you want to remain undercover? Not put out there what your real speed is? Make sure you can still get the occasional sucker?

What are these several reasons? No camera? No table? No cojones?

Just want to be a dick?
 
Not sure what you are trying to show here. I offered to FREEZE up the money long before the show.

Then when that all went south because Eric couldn't keep his mouth shut I gave up and decided that it wasn't worth it and said CLEARLY AND PLAINLY on here BEFORE the match that I was not going to play and he didn't need to bother coming to my booth.

You sat RIGHT THERE when I told him he is an ASSHOLE to his face. Speaking of not "doing anything".

You really are the master of spin. Seriously.

Let's you and me freeze up $500 RIGHT NOW - I will Paypal mine to Anyone we agree on to be a neutral party to hold the money. Then the very next time we meet if we don't play in 24 hours and the other guy is standing at the table ready to play - the player who doesn't show forfeits the cash.

Do we have a bet? Why are you such a dick now? It's funny I thought we were cool and in person you are cool but online you are a world class *****.

I am sorry that it vexes you SO MUCH that other people are getting enjoyment out of Hal Houle's aiming systems. That's something you will have to work out on your own. Bums you out that you can't beat me with logic either so you resort to insults and obfuscation as referenced by the video and your "spin" on it.

In this video Louser I did EXACTLY what I said I was going to do.


ummm, well no.

I wasn't there when you and Eric had your little tete-a-tete. But, I was there, later on with Jimbo and Fred, when your story was that the reason you wouldn't play Eric was your back, and how you couldn't lean over the table without being in excruciating pain.

(Note to aspiring spinmeisters: get your story straight first.)

As to tying up $500 for an indefinite period of time, just because you're beating on your chest right now, no that's not going to happen.

Lou Figueroa
 
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Now you see, this is a prime example of your complete FAILURE to comprehend what I write.

I said I am going to TRY to make it to DCC.

If I let this statement of yours slide you will build it into something that I OBLIGATED to and then try to use it to say that I didn't go to DCC just to duck you. I offered DCC as the NEXT place you and I are LIKELY to be in the same venue IF I can make it.

Jeeze what is with you?


oh. Sorry. I misspoke.

At least I can admit that when I do it... unlike you ;-)

Lou Figueroa
 
Which is exactly WHY I offered to match up in something that we can do EVEN IF we are FAR AWAY.

Should be easy money for you Lou. With you being the superior player it's free lunch money - everyone gets to see how great you play and how bad I play and therefore both videos stand as respective testaments to whatever styles we advocate.

Or do you want to remain undercover? Not put out there what your real speed is? Make sure you can still get the occasional sucker?

What are these several reasons? No camera? No table? No cojones?

Just want to be a dick?


John, I can see from these last few posts of yours that you're in a lot of pain.

I'm not doing it because it doesn't interest me. Same reason I don't play in bar table tournaments or leagues. It's just not what I do or care about.

As to being the superior player, I have no idea. Am I willing to play you? Sure. Who will win? I don't know. We'll find out when (if) it happens.

Lou Figueroa
 
ummm, well no.

I wasn't there when you and Eric had your little tete-a-tete. But, I was there, later on with Jimbo and Fred, when your story was that the reason you wouldn't play Eric was your back, and how you couldn't lean over the table without being in excruciating pain.

(Note to aspiring spinmeisters: get your story straight first.)

As to tying up $500 for an indefinite period of time, just because you're beating on your chest right now, no that's not going to happen.

Lou Figueroa

Excuse me? I didn't say one word about my back when we were all sitting there. You are so mixed up spinning the story your way that you have zero clue about anything.

You should do your homework BEFORE you start trying to use situations you know nothing about to attempt to malign me.

Once again I did EXACTLY what I said I was going to do if Eric showed up. I gave him EVERY OPPORTUNITY to play before I had enough.

When I came over and sat down we talked about other things as you know full well and you tried to make some accusation that I don't criticize any other case makers other than Justis and Fred had to correct you.

You are getting a bit senile I think - you might want to write down how to play to remind yourself when it's crunch time.

Yeah, it's really difficult to have a discussion with someone who is willing to completely fabricate the story as you are doing here. I have to spend most of the time refuting your fantasy ramblings.

Now I am fairly sure you are not doing it maliciously but it's still frustrating dealing with someone who can't even remember what happened two months ago and someone who can't even be bothered to go and read the thread he wants to use a a character reference.
 
John, I can see from these last few posts of yours that you're in a lot of pain.

I'm not doing it because it doesn't interest me. Same reason I don't play in bar table tournaments or leagues. It's just not what I do or care about.

As to being the superior player, I have no idea. Am I willing to play you? Sure. Who will win? I don't know. We'll find out when (if) it happens.

Lou Figueroa

Fine then let it go. You are the one who is taking this to another level by being a dick.

My post about doing Fargo was made in FUN for anyone who wanted to do it.

I am not in any pain just really disappointed in you and your willingness to **** up what little bit of friendship we have and what genuine respect I have for you and your game.
 
Want to Bet?

oh. Sorry. I misspoke.

At least I can admit that when I do it... unlike you ;-)

Lou Figueroa

I will bet you $1000 right now that you are wrong about me. Post the money and I will post the links within one hour proving it. Why you want to be a dick here is beyond me.

When I am wrong and when I misspeak I admit it. For you it's just another way to spin. You don't care about the truth and don't bother to go back and look at the posts you reference. You just make up your version and if no one challenges you then your version stands.
 
John, Spider Web, and others are not making a flipping Dime off of the INFO they share about CTE. I do not under stan the ristance to trying smething for FREE. If will not hurt you Cue, Tip, or anything. So whay the resistance? PLEASE SPLAIN!
 
Excuse me? I didn't say one word about my back when we were all sitting there. You are so mixed up spinning the story your way that you have zero clue about anything.

You should do your homework BEFORE you start trying to use situations you know nothing about to attempt to malign me.

Once again I did EXACTLY what I said I was going to do if Eric showed up. I gave him EVERY OPPORTUNITY to play before I had enough.

When I came over and sat down we talked about other things as you know full well and you tried to make some accusation that I don't criticize any other case makers other than Justis and Fred had to correct you.

You are getting a bit senile I think - you might want to write down how to play to remind yourself when it's crunch time.

Yeah, it's really difficult to have a discussion with someone who is willing to completely fabricate the story as you are doing here. I have to spend most of the time refuting your fantasy ramblings.

Now I am fairly sure you are not doing it maliciously but it's still frustrating dealing with someone who can't even remember what happened two months ago and someone who can't even be bothered to go and read the thread he wants to use a a character reference.


Here, let me refresh your memory:

On Friday at the SBE, at the entrance to your booth, Jimbo was sitting next to you, Fred was nearby, I was standing in front of you, and we began talking about various things.

The subject of your match with Eric came up and you told us all about the video he shot of you saying you weren't going to play and said he'd probably put it up all over the internet. THEN you said that you didn't play him because your back was out.

I laughed and said to Jimbo, "Good thing to know. If we play some 1pocket, John doesn't get left on the end rail -- he gets frozen up against a ball mid-table." We all laughed AND THEN you went on to say that you had told everyone about your back at the beginning of the thread related to matching up with Eric. Jimbo and I looked at each other and we both said to you at the same time, "I don't remember anything like that." But you went on, insisting that it was there and all about your back being bad.

So when you say, quote,

"Excuse me? I didn't say one word about my back when we were all sitting there. ...it's really difficult to have a discussion with someone who is willing to completely fabricate the story as you are doing here. ...it's still frustrating dealing with someone who can't even remember what happened two months ago..."

you might want to rethink all that ;-)

Lou Figueroa
 
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Fine then let it go. You are the one who is taking this to another level by being a dick.

My post about doing Fargo was made in FUN for anyone who wanted to do it.

I am not in any pain just really disappointed in you and your willingness to **** up what little bit of friendship we have and what genuine respect I have for you and your game.


No, it wasn't for "anyone" that wanted to take you up on it -- you have your own thread on that subject. You came here to my thread and challenged me.

Lou Figueroa
 
I will bet you $1000 right now that you are wrong about me. Post the money and I will post the links within one hour proving it. Why you want to be a dick here is beyond me.

When I am wrong and when I misspeak I admit it. For you it's just another way to spin. You don't care about the truth and don't bother to go back and look at the posts you reference. You just make up your version and if no one challenges you then your version stands.


Here, I'm going to save you some money: what I was talking about was when, earlier up in the thread, you said I didn't quote you. A few pages later you changed that to say I misinterpreted what you said. Big difference ;-)

Lou Figueroa
 
Here, I'm going to save you some money: what I was talking about was when, earlier up in the thread, you said I didn't quote you. A few pages later you changed that to say I misinterpreted what you said. Big difference ;-)

Lou Figueroa

You know exactly what you did Lou. You didn't USE my words to ask me if we agreed. You asked me if we agreed using YOUR words which ARE your opinion.

If you want to play semantics then we can certainly do that. You know full well what I was saying.
 
Here, let me refresh your memory:

On Saturday at the SBE, at the entrance to your booth, Jimbo was sitting next to you, Fred was nearby, I was standing in front of you, and we began talking about various things.

The subject of your match with Eric came up and you told us all about the video he shot of you saying you weren't going to play and said he'd probably put it up all over the internet. THEN you said that you didn't play him because your back was out.

I laughed and said to Jimbo, "Good thing to know. If we play some 1pocket, John doesn't get left on the end rail -- he gets frozen up against a ball mid-table." We all laughed AND THEN you went on to say that you had told everyone about your back at the beginning of the thread related to matching up with Eric. Jimbo and I looked at each other and we both said to you at the same time, "I don't remember anything like that." But you went on, insisting that it was there and all about your back being bad.

So when you say, quote,

"Excuse me? I didn't say one word about my back when we were all sitting there. ...it's really difficult to have a discussion with someone who is willing to completely fabricate the story as you are doing here. ...it's still frustrating dealing with someone who can't even remember what happened two months ago..."

you might want to rethink all that ;-)

Lou Figueroa

You are wrong. I definitely did NOT SAY that I was refusing to play Eric because my back was out. If I said anything about it AT ALL then it was that I had decided at the time I put up the thread that I wanted to play one pocket because my back was out. Which it was at the time I put up the thread. In that same thread I had agreed to play Eric if he froze up the money which he refused to do.

The thread with Eric STARTED with me telling everyone that I didn't want to play because of my back and it ENDED with me telling Eric and everyone that I wasn't going to play and why.

So once again, I did everything I said I would do.

For two people who are so interested in what I do it's really funny that both you and Jimbo couldn't "remember" the very first post I made in the Eric challenge thread.

But whatever, you are in full dick mode so I will leave you to be as big a one as you want to be.
 
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