Players who dump in tournaments?

StormHotRod300

StormHotRod300

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This is kinda a second Thread to the other one i posted about people dumping in tournaments.

Maybe its just my area, but, do players dump or play down thier skill thier to stay in a lower level tournament that they know they can cash in? Instead of winning and getting booted?

Like say you have player X, and he has been winning the monday nite tournament for a few weeks, and this week he hears if he wins he will be banned, and hafta play the Tuesday tournament with players who shoot just as good as him. So he dumps and takes 4th place so he wont get booted from playing.

And you could make the case for other skill levels too, where guys just want the easy win, to stroke thier ego, or something? And never try for anything.

dave
 
sometimes

I know that when my group heads to a tournament and we have to match up on the winners side, we let the weaker player go on, because we have a better chance to split later on, if we match on the losers side the stronger goes on (even if he is off on the match he has a better shot at the cash)
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People do strange things when money is involved. Most Tournament are for money, and sometime there is more money to be made after the Tournament, than the Tournament Pot.....
 
During a weekend tournment( blind draw parners) I have seen good players draw a week player and they would dump.... just to keep from feeding the table quarters... ( sounds unreal) but I have seen and heard them say it. When a strong player draws a weaker parner ... then it becomes a Instructor and Student team.... Some games takes an hour to play.... I stop going because of this. Some players think they can't be beat.... they don't play to ejoy the game.... I think in a drawn parners game it should carry some kind of foul if the parners talk to each other / when its their shot.
 
Are you sure that they aren't just stroking their egos???

They might not be able to get any better or do any better, and they are just stroking their egos by telling you that they don't wanna get kicked out of the weekly tournaments....

OR...... they could be having a really $hitty run of balls and that's why it appears that way......

I had a mental break several years ago and am just now starting to be able to play in tournaments again. I play at about 110-130 speed in the usppa, but since my only two other usppa tournaments from the past were after my mental break and the fact it's taken me a few tournaments to get back to speed, I've dropped from an estimated 100 to an 88, to a 51 and now to a 39 from the scoring of my first 4 tournaments combined with the other two.... This is going to be going up since I completely dominate the tournaments now, but if the people you're talking about are having trouble adjusting to tournament play, it might just be they're having a $hitty run of balls or are running into a mental block....


Believe me people were pissed when I was a 51 running several racks, and now that I dropped to a 39, they are realy going to be pissed and the TD hasn't pulled his head out of his ass and realized he can mark me up until I have 99 sheets...
 
I am so up and down in my game. There are times that I'm hitting the balls so good I can't even believe it. Then there are other times when I just don't know what the heck is going on but I can't make shots that I normally do.

When you see someone play really good one day and then watch them play like crap, you think, "Oh man, they're sandbagging!" I'm sure people say that about me sometimes and there's nothing I can do about it. When I'm playing my best, I'm pretty pleased with how I shoot. For some reason, though, and I wish I knew why, I just can't play sometimes! It is so frustrating for me and has pissed me off so much in the past that I had to finally say to myself to just forget about it and play and just let what happens happen. If I don't do that, I'm afraid I'm going to have a stroke or something.

This has certainly made me look at others differently. They could be sandbagging or they could be just like me, trying their best but just can't play consistently at a certain level.


Jaden said:
Believe me people were pissed when I was a 51 running several racks, and now that I dropped to a 39, they are realy going to be pissed and the TD hasn't pulled his head out of his ass and realized he can mark me up until I have 99 sheets...
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Really

Jaden said:
They might not be able to get any better or do any better, and they are just stroking their egos by telling you that they don't wanna get kicked out of the weekly tournaments....

OR...... they could be having a really $hitty run of balls and that's why it appears that way......

I had a mental break several years ago and am just now starting to be able to play in tournaments again. I play at about 110-130 speed in the usppa, but since my only two other usppa tournaments from the past were after my mental break and the fact it's taken me a few tournaments to get back to speed, I've dropped from an estimated 100 to an 88, to a 51 and now to a 39 from the scoring of my first 4 tournaments combined with the other two.... This is going to be going up since I completely dominate the tournaments now, but if the people you're talking about are having trouble adjusting to tournament play, it might just be they're having a $hitty run of balls or are running into a mental block....


Believe me people were pissed when I was a 51 running several racks, and now that I dropped to a 39, they are realy going to be pissed and the TD hasn't pulled his head out of his ass and realized he can mark me up until I have 99 sheets...
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Well post where you play and I will call and wise him up. To drop that far in the usppa is almost impossible. You got to have switched hands.
 
1. When you get to be a good player, you can win most games against most of the other players (locally).

2. When playing for "fun", many players will not play against someone who they lose every game to.

3. In small local tournaments, if the same people are winning each week, some lesser skilled players will become discouraged and stop playing in the tournament. To keep attendance up at the tournament, it is desirable that different people get in the money from time to time. The better players can "help" this to occur.

4. Good players like to play pool and play more pool. Playing and winning is preferred, although it is better to play and lose intentionally than to not play at all (intentionally losing sometimes to those who will not play against you anymore if you win every game).

5. If a good player dumps sometimes (so other players will continue to play them for "fun" or to allow other players in a tournament to win so they will keep playing in the weekly tournament), the player will be criticized for dumping.

6. You can't win for losing!
 
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