Poll: Do cuemakers have to own a Pool Table?
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Yes.
Unless he's really close to a pool hall or a neighbor's table.
Unless he's really close to a pool hall or a neighbor's table.
Sheldon said:
A table is a must have! You have to have some way to pass the time while the CNC machine does all the work
I hit with every cue that comes out of my shop and my family likes to play so not having one is not a option for me.
IMHO, a pool table is a must for a cue maker.
It is necessary for customers to try out some cues, before ordering, and to try out their cue, upon delivery.
The cue maker also needs it, when he tries something new in the design of his cues.
The cue maker also needs something to do, while the wood is resting, between cuts, and when the finish is drying.
I know one very prominent cue maker, who plays a awful lot of one-pocket.
It is necessary for customers to try out some cues, before ordering, and to try out their cue, upon delivery.
The cue maker also needs it, when he tries something new in the design of his cues.
The cue maker also needs something to do, while the wood is resting, between cuts, and when the finish is drying.
I know one very prominent cue maker, who plays a awful lot of one-pocket.
table
TABLE!
Having a table is a "MUST", for any quality cuemaker.
Each and every cue I build, is tested by "ME" and no one else. After all, it's got my name on it. Having a one man shop, makes life eaiser building cues.
I sent a cue out to a new customer a few days ago, he called and was disapointed, because he thought he received a used cue. It had blue chalk on the tip. I explained that, "ALL CUES" are tested before they are shipped. I then ask, would you not want me to test it? He understood, and was fine with why it had chalk...
I know of several cuemakers who do not have a tables as well as some who do have a table, and most of them can't play a lick. These "types" are in it for the money only, and don't know what to look for, when it comes to the hit of the cue. Most build "copy-cats", cues.......
Blud
TABLE!
Having a table is a "MUST", for any quality cuemaker.
Each and every cue I build, is tested by "ME" and no one else. After all, it's got my name on it. Having a one man shop, makes life eaiser building cues.
I sent a cue out to a new customer a few days ago, he called and was disapointed, because he thought he received a used cue. It had blue chalk on the tip. I explained that, "ALL CUES" are tested before they are shipped. I then ask, would you not want me to test it? He understood, and was fine with why it had chalk...
I know of several cuemakers who do not have a tables as well as some who do have a table, and most of them can't play a lick. These "types" are in it for the money only, and don't know what to look for, when it comes to the hit of the cue. Most build "copy-cats", cues.......
Blud
I don't think the wording in this poll is really done right. Of course a cuemaker needs to have access to a pool table, but I've known a couple who didn't actually "own" a table. One such circumstance is when a cuemaker is set up adjacent to a pool room. He may or may not "own a pool table" but has access to one.
I've had a table in my shop for decades, a 9' Gold Crown II which has the tightest pockets in the area. It's put a frown on many "name brand players" when they tried to show off a little! lol
The only down side to having a table in your shop, other than the obvious space issue, is the fact that it can at times be detrimental to productivity! lol I'd much rather be playing one-pocket than doing finish work! I do sometimes have to run buddies out of the shop when it gets too crowded with pool players. I also have the situation of having been a batchelor with my shop and pool table set up in my basement and outbuildings. All my buddies looking to get away from nagging wives seem to gravitate to my pool table!
Sherm
I've had a table in my shop for decades, a 9' Gold Crown II which has the tightest pockets in the area. It's put a frown on many "name brand players" when they tried to show off a little! lol
The only down side to having a table in your shop, other than the obvious space issue, is the fact that it can at times be detrimental to productivity! lol I'd much rather be playing one-pocket than doing finish work! I do sometimes have to run buddies out of the shop when it gets too crowded with pool players. I also have the situation of having been a batchelor with my shop and pool table set up in my basement and outbuildings. All my buddies looking to get away from nagging wives seem to gravitate to my pool table!
Sherm
cues and quality
Good mornin Sherm,
I also enjoy playing. However, cues come first. I have always said, I quit playing for several reasons, they are,
1.- pool makes you no money, for the most part, especialy at my level of play. Not a world beater. But can play.
2.- cuemaking does make you money.
3.- you got to decide which you want to be, a pool-player, or a cuemaker.
4.- you can't be top knotch at both. We have all seen pool-players who try to play and build cues. Doesn't work. One interferres with the other. There game drops off as well as there desire to build quality cues. They think about who they can challenge tonight, at pool. Never has worked. This doesn't mean they can't play.
5.- You got to be a cuemaker, or a pool player.
Just my opinion.
About nagging wives, never experienced that one.Totally clueless, my friend.
Got me a keeper.
blud
cuesmith said:I don't think the wording in this poll is really done right. Of course a cuemaker needs to have access to a pool table, but I've known a couple who didn't actually "own" a table. One such circumstance is when a cuemaker is set up adjacent to a pool room. He may or may not "own a pool table" but has access to one.
I've had a table in my shop for decades, a 9' Gold Crown II which has the tightest pockets in the area. It's put a frown on many "name brand players" when they tried to show off a little! lol
The only down side to having a table in your shop, other than the obvious space issue, is the fact that it can at times be detrimental to productivity! lol I'd much rather be playing one-pocket than doing finish work! I do sometimes have to run buddies out of the shop when it gets too crowded with pool players. I also have the situation of having been a batchelor with my shop and pool table set up in my basement and outbuildings. All my buddies looking to get away from nagging wives seem to gravitate to my pool table!
Sherm
Good mornin Sherm,
I also enjoy playing. However, cues come first. I have always said, I quit playing for several reasons, they are,
1.- pool makes you no money, for the most part, especialy at my level of play. Not a world beater. But can play.
2.- cuemaking does make you money.
3.- you got to decide which you want to be, a pool-player, or a cuemaker.
4.- you can't be top knotch at both. We have all seen pool-players who try to play and build cues. Doesn't work. One interferres with the other. There game drops off as well as there desire to build quality cues. They think about who they can challenge tonight, at pool. Never has worked. This doesn't mean they can't play.
5.- You got to be a cuemaker, or a pool player.
Just my opinion.
About nagging wives, never experienced that one.Totally clueless, my friend.
Got me a keeper.
blud
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I would think cuemakers would want to experiment from time to time, try out new ideas, etc., and of course test their products.
So far as sales goes, some customers may not know exactly what they want/need. I would think it would be helpful to have a variety of different weight cues, different size shafts, cues with different joints, etc. for customers to try.
FYI - McDermott has some new shafts coming out called "i series shafts".
They are...
i-1
Tip Size:
13mm
Standard Tip:
Moori Quick
Standard Taper:
6" - 8"
Designed For:
Power, speed, accuracy, and slower cloth. Ideal for breaking and multiple banks.
i-2
Tip Size:
12.75mm
Standard Tip:
Moori Medium
Standard Taper:
12" - 14"
Designed For:
Advanced level player, or player looking to hit advanced shots. Medium to fast cloth. The ultimate for accuracy, control, and consistency.
i-3
Tip Size:
11.75mm
Standard Tip:
Moori Soft
Standard Taper:
European
Designed For:
Pro level player, or played looking to strike Pro-type shots. Fast cloth. The ultimate for action, touch, and finesse.
http://www.mcdermottcue.com/PAGES/I Shafts/Home.htm
So far as sales goes, some customers may not know exactly what they want/need. I would think it would be helpful to have a variety of different weight cues, different size shafts, cues with different joints, etc. for customers to try.
FYI - McDermott has some new shafts coming out called "i series shafts".
They are...
i-1
Tip Size:
13mm
Standard Tip:
Moori Quick
Standard Taper:
6" - 8"
Designed For:
Power, speed, accuracy, and slower cloth. Ideal for breaking and multiple banks.
i-2
Tip Size:
12.75mm
Standard Tip:
Moori Medium
Standard Taper:
12" - 14"
Designed For:
Advanced level player, or player looking to hit advanced shots. Medium to fast cloth. The ultimate for accuracy, control, and consistency.
i-3
Tip Size:
11.75mm
Standard Tip:
Moori Soft
Standard Taper:
European
Designed For:
Pro level player, or played looking to strike Pro-type shots. Fast cloth. The ultimate for action, touch, and finesse.
http://www.mcdermottcue.com/PAGES/I Shafts/Home.htm
I don't think its a MUST. I think a good cuemaker that has a good cue, probably doesn't have to test it when its done. In fact I think to a degree a cuemaker that "tests" his cues maybe is a little insecure about his abilities. It can be taken either way.. but you might as well start a poll asking which is more important for a cuemaker to posess...
playing ability
machining ability
wood knowledge
I think I would worry more about these than if he owned a table... IMHO
Joe
playing ability
machining ability
wood knowledge
I think I would worry more about these than if he owned a table... IMHO
Joe
classiccues said:
I don't know Joe, what if there is an imperfection in the wood or any component for that matter that could not be seen by the naked eye. That's like buying a car on looks alone, only to find out that it has no engine. I understand that is a very extreme example, but the principles are the same. Even products that are massed produced by large manufacurers get tested to make sure that they work properly, that is called 'Quality Control'. All I know is cuemakers who don't test their cues better check their 'holier than thou' attitudes at the door cuz my sh!t better work the way I expect it to when I get my hands on it.
table
Hello Joe,
All three things you have listed are very important. However you have over looked the table. The table is also just as important. What "IF", you don't have a table and the cue develops an internal crack and it make a buzz or clink, that your not aware of, cause you didn't play with the cue???????
If you test each and every cue, you can avoid from sending a cue out that may or may not be up to my "high standards".
This is why, "ALL" my "CUES" are tested before they get to your hands and or customers.
Not trying to be rude or an a**-hole, but if you built cues and were good at it, believe me sir, you "WOULD HAVE A TABLE", If not, hit balls with every cue.
Crap happens to woods, we have no control over mother nature. It's not that we over look something, or do some machining wrong or bore too deep or whatever.
As good cuemakers, we look for something, that could be wrong my friend.
Am, I a good cue maker? You bet.
Not braggin, just a fact.And proud of it.
better safe that sorry, bro..
blud
classiccues said:
Hello Joe,
All three things you have listed are very important. However you have over looked the table. The table is also just as important. What "IF", you don't have a table and the cue develops an internal crack and it make a buzz or clink, that your not aware of, cause you didn't play with the cue???????
If you test each and every cue, you can avoid from sending a cue out that may or may not be up to my "high standards".
This is why, "ALL" my "CUES" are tested before they get to your hands and or customers.
Not trying to be rude or an a**-hole, but if you built cues and were good at it, believe me sir, you "WOULD HAVE A TABLE", If not, hit balls with every cue.
Crap happens to woods, we have no control over mother nature. It's not that we over look something, or do some machining wrong or bore too deep or whatever.
As good cuemakers, we look for something, that could be wrong my friend.
Am, I a good cue maker? You bet.
Not braggin, just a fact.And proud of it.
better safe that sorry, bro..
blud
"quality" requires double checking everything
The 3 things are important. But the fourth is just as important. It is checking in every way possible to make sure the cue is as perfect as it can be so the customer gets what he pays for and expects. A quality custom cue. A cuemaker can visually check to see if finish is right, wrap is right, etc. Can also feel the butt, shaft, joints, wrap, etc to see if everything feels good. But as a player and cuemaker you have to hit a ball or two to see how it hits, how it feels, if the weight is balanced the way the customer wanted(two 19 oz cue can feel different if weight is distributed differently), what sounds it makes or doesn't make, etc. And if something isn't right it gets fixed before it is sent to the player who expects it to be perfect. I bought plenty of cues before I started building cues - I expected that quality as a player so I can't build a cue without giving the same to my customers.blud said: