Poll: Smoking/Non-smoking Pool Rooms

[NaClBandit]

Another thread lead me to inquire about the smoking situation in the pool world.

I'd like to know your thoughts on this issue.

How many smokers will play regularly in a non-smoking room?

Conversely, how many non-smokers will play in a room where smoking's allowed?

Comments are welcome.

 

[Cardinal_Syn]

Well all the poolhall here are non-smoking. Casino's bars etc. The law now so we got no choice. One of the reasons why I picked up smoking was because I was getting fed up by the smoke in poolhalls I decided to just join in, screw it if ya can't beat em join em. But it really is much better now, we could breath properly, no smoke in your face. If I need a smoke I can just go outside anyways. Either way I'd play both in a smoking or non-smoking hall.

 

[Snapshot9]

I think ...

Your results are going to be sqewed because you
need the factor of whether the poolplayer is a gambler
or just a league player type. From my experience for
gambling poolplayers, a non-smoking gambling poolplayer
will frequent smoking Pool rooms, but a smoking gambling
poolplayer will NOT frequent non-smoking Pool rooms.
Besides, some of those non-smokers still go to smoking
rooms because the friend or girlfriend with them is a smoker.

I do believe though, as hard as it might seem, that the Pool
room should have a very adequate ventillation system that
can lift and dispell the smoke outside. Tournaments with
64 players or more, and railbirds is the only time that it
seems to cause a problem somewhat.

League players come and go, but the gamblers are the lifer
players that are always where 'the action is'. And many
spectators show up just to see the 'good action'.

Pool's roots (gambling) will never go away, and is a big
drawing card for Pool rooms ...

 

[catscradle]

The questions was a little incomplete. I clicked the 4th option because given the ability to find a non-smoking room I'll never frequent a smoking pool room. Case in point weekdays I live in NH where smoking is allowed. There is a room about 3 miles from me where being NH there is smoking, rather than go there I drive approximately 20 minutes to MA where smoking is not allowed. I can't imagine any non-smokers who wouldn't make the same choice. However, before MA went non-smoking I regularly frequented rooms where there was smoking because that was the only place to play and I really thought it sucked big time.

 

[runscott]

The questions was a little incomplete. I clicked the 4th option because given the ability to find a non-smoking room I'll never frequent a smoking pool room. Case in point weekdays I live in NH where smoking is allowed. There is a room about 3 miles from me where being NH there is smoking, rather than go there I drive approximately 20 minutes to MA where smoking is not allowed. I can't imagine any non-smokers who wouldn't make the same choice. However, before MA went non-smoking I regularly frequented rooms where there was smoking because that was the only place to play and I really thought it sucked big time.

Same here, as long as the NS room is a reasonable drive. Unfortunately, it isn't, so I just pack eye drops and wash clothes more frequently. NBD.

 

[davidhop]

Your results are going to be sqewed because you
need the factor of whether the poolplayer is a gambler
or just a league player type. From my experience for
gambling poolplayers, a non-smoking gambling poolplayer
will frequent smoking Pool rooms, but a smoking gambling
poolplayer will NOT frequent non-smoking Pool rooms.
Besides, some of those non-smokers still go to smoking
rooms because the friend or girlfriend with them is a smoker.

I do believe though, as hard as it might seem, that the Pool
room should have a very adequate ventillation system that
can lift and dispell the smoke outside. Tournaments with
64 players or more, and railbirds is the only time that it
seems to cause a problem somewhat.

League players come and go, but the gamblers are the lifer
players that are always where 'the action is'. And many
spectators show up just to see the 'good action'.

Pool's roots (gambling) will never go away, and is a big
drawing card for Pool rooms ...

I totally agree with everything said here! It seems like if you go to a nonsmoking pool room, you might see people playing a set for twenty (usually young health conscious college kids). If you go to some of the smoking rooms around (usually a much older crowd), you might see a set for a thousand. I guess it just depends on what type of action you are looking for at that particular moment.

 

[theoneandonly]

smoke

I am a non smoker. Kicked the habit almost 3 years ago. I stil am a fan of smoke though. I do not mind the second hand smoke, actually sometimes like it. I do not care if the room allows smoking or not. I just like to play.

 

[Colin Colenso]

The questions are pointless!

It makes more sense to talk in terms such as Maslow's heirarchy of desires.

eg. Even the most virlilent anti-smoker would entering a smoking allowed facility if other benefits outweighed the perceived negatives.

I assume most smokers prefer well vetilated rooms and do not like it when their smoke unintentionally bothers others.

Life is full of compromises. Let the property owners make their own decision. Some places can cater more to non-smokers and others to smokers if that's what makes them happy or their clientele happy as shown by profits.

Only politicians and busy-bodies could be so obnoxious that they dare tell people what they can do or not do in their own establishments.

End of rant

 

[Cannon]

The questions are pointless!

It makes more sense to talk in terms such as Maslow's heirarchy of desires.

eg. Even the most virlilent anti-smoker would entering a smoking allowed facility if other benefits outweighed the perceived negatives.

I assume most smokers prefer well vetilated rooms and do not like it when their smoke unintentionally bothers others.

Life is full of compromises. Let the property owners make their own decision. Some places can cater more to non-smokers and others to smokers if that's what makes them happy or their clientele happy as shown by profits.

Only politicians and busy-bodies could be so obnoxious that they dare tell people what they can do or not do in their own establishments.

End of rant

tap.........tap........tap

 

[pawnmon]

Here in the Peoples Republic of Montgomery County (PRMC), Maryland the pigs who have learned to walk upright on their hind legs have banned all smoking from public access interior spaces within our glorious Peoples Republic and Workers Paradise. If non-smoking rooms are so much in demand they should be able to successfully compete with smoking allowed rooms. But that, of course, is a completely logical assumption based on free market principles. Quite a few well liked and busy establishments bit the dust as a result of this anti-smoking revolution by these swine and that's a shame.

I am an ex-smoker of many years. I will play in either non-smoking rooms or smoking allowed rooms. I will play in non-drinking rooms or drinking allowed rooms. I'll even play in non-eating rooms or eating allowed rooms. I just wanna play and I'd like more places to play, not less. That is all.

 

[Busman]

I've been cigarette free for 1.5 years now, after smoking for 15 years.
I will never smoke again.
However, far be it from me to deny anyone else the chance to kill themself.

I voted non-smoker who will play anyplace...and I will.

 

[Rickw]

I would occasionally play in a ph where smoking is allowed but I wouldn't go there all the time and I wouldn't stay long when I did go. I live in Ca and I've gotten really spoiled with the non-smoking rooms. I used to smoke and even then, I think I would have preferred to play in a non-smoking room. It's kind of a nice way to take a break from pool to have a smoke. I play with a smoker and we look forward to stepping outside to take a break once in a while so he can smoke and we can shoot the shit.

 

[catscradle]

Here in the Peoples Republic of Montgomery County (PRMC), Maryland the pigs who have learned to walk upright on their hind legs have banned all smoking from public access interior spaces within our glorious Peoples Republic and Workers Paradise. If non-smoking rooms are so much in demand they should be able to successfully compete with smoking allowed rooms. But that, of course, is a completely logical assumption based on free market principles. Quite a few well liked and busy establishments bit the dust as a result of this anti-smoking revolution by these swine and that's a shame.

I am an ex-smoker of many years. I will play in either non-smoking rooms or smoking allowed rooms. I will play in non-drinking rooms or drinking allowed rooms. I'll even play in non-eating rooms or eating allowed rooms. I just wanna play and I'd like more places to play, not less. That is all.

Even though I still maintain "smoking sucks" I agree with you in principal, i.e. smoking vs. non-smoking should be decided by the room owner. Personally, I'm overjoyed that MA is non-smoking even if I do have some qualms about the interference with free enterprise. I assume it is within the legal rights of the state/county/municipality to create such a ban or it would have been brought before the courts by now by some special interest group.
I also believe that smokers are a minority, but if we can't play by their rules (smoking allowed) some of them will take their ball and go home, wah-wah.

 

[chefjeff]

Here in the Peoples Republic of Montgomery County (PRMC), Maryland the pigs who have learned to walk upright on their hind legs have banned all smoking from public access interior spaces within our glorious Peoples Republic and Workers Paradise. If non-smoking rooms are so much in demand they should be able to successfully compete with smoking allowed rooms. But that, of course, is a completely logical assumption based on free market principles. Quite a few well liked and busy establishments bit the dust as a result of this anti-smoking revolution by these swine and that's a shame.

Tell it like it is, buddy!

Freedom rocks!

Jeff Livingston

 

[Roll-Off]

Tell it like it is, buddy!

Freedom rocks!

Jeff Livingston

Freedom does rock. But, in our country you can't dirctly or indirectly kill someone. Read the rule book!

 

[Jack Madden]

I played for years in places with the smoke so thick you could hardly see. Was a smoker. Quit. And now I seem to be allergic to the smoke - gives me fits after playing. So I don't play in the bars anymore.
Jack
www.johnmaddencues.com

 

[catscradle]

If the results to this poll so far reflect accurately the percentage of non-smokers in the pool community, and I think they do, then it is truly amazing how much smoke the 20% who are smokers produce. It also tips my thinking in favor of anti-smoking legislation.

 

[chefjeff]

Freedom does rock. But, in our country you can't dirctly or indirectly kill someone. Read the rule book!

The hell you can't dirctly (sic) or indirectly kill someone in our country. Where have you been all your life? Read a newspaper. 100,000 dead in Iraq in just the last two years. Last century was a whole lot more than that. Of course they're not in "our" country, but that's just a detail.

Oh, are you talking about second-hand smoke? OK, why would anyone allow themselves to be/stay in a potentially dangerous environment? Could it have something to do with....oh...maybe....FREEDOM to chose?

Tell us more about that rule book. Seriously.

Jeff Livingston

 

[Roll-Off]

Oh, are you talking about second-hand smoke? OK, why would anyone allow themselves to be/stay in a potentially dangerous environment? Could it have something to do with....oh...maybe....FREEDOM to chose?

This is probably one of the dumbest posts I've ever read. You can't be serious? So the players who chose not....nevermind, you wouldn't understand. That's why we have smart people leading this country. You're group is fighting a losing battle. One day all public places will be smoke-free and many lives will be saved.

 

[chefjeff]

This is probably one of the dumbest posts I've ever read. You can't be serious? So the players who chose not....nevermind, you wouldn't understand. That's why we have smart people leading this country. You're group is fighting a losing battle. One day all public places will be smoke-free and many lives will be saved.

Show us the rulebook, man....YOU brought it up. You think I don't understand it, so tell us, oh wise one.

"[M]y group?" In what group am I?

"mart people leading this country?" List one.

Is a pool hall a "public place?" If so, why? And show me in the rulebook where it says so.

Waiting to be educated. Please don't back out or short-reply on my request for more info. from you---otherwise people may think you just post meaningless crap with nothing to back it up.

Let's have a rational discussion, shall we?

Jeff Livingston