Pool instructor with high speed video camera

[Tennesseejoe]

I would like to hear some comments about the benefits of using a high speed video camera in pool instruction from both instructors and students.

Also, who are the best instructors using these cameras?

 

[Billy_Bob]

I get pretty much all I need to know from using a regular video camera and playing it back in slow motion.

I can see what I am doing with my stroke, etc.

Other than that, I have studied Dr. Dave's high speed videos (free on internet) to better understand the game - know what is happening. I think he needs to place the high speed camera very close to each shot and have tons of lighting?

Also I bought his DVD and this has been what has helped me the most to learn position play (leave cue ball where I want after each shot).

Here are his high speed and regular speed videos...
http://www.engr.colostate.edu/~dga/pool/

 

[td873]

I would like to hear some comments about the benefits of using a high speed video camera in pool instruction from both instructors and students.

A regular camera gets 30 frames per second. This is the speed that I use with students, and is more than enough to review a stroke. My video camera goes up to 8000 fps, but I seldom even use 60 fps. (But, I believe that this is just the shutter speed, and not the actual number of frames it records. With the higher shutter speed you get less blur when recording motion, but not much other benefit). Besides, as you start going up in fps, you need SOOOOO much more light. Also, owning or even renting a true high speed camera is a very expensive proposition.

IMO, there is no need for a high speed camera. I would guess that the vast majority of instructors would concur.

Also, who are the best instructors using these cameras?

I believe all BCA instructors are taught how to tape and instruct using video.

-td

 

[Patrick Johnson]

I would like to hear some comments about the benefits of using a high speed video camera in pool instruction from both instructors and students.

Also, who are the best instructors using these cameras?

Do you really mean high speed, or any video that's capable of slomo or stopframe? I thought Scott Lee's use of normal video (with stopframe) to analyze my stance, stroke and bridge was really cool, especially when he drew on the monitor screen with magic marker to record my starting position and show how it changed throughout the shot (fortunately, not much) and from shot to shot (a little more).

pj
chgo

 

[Boro Nut]

I would like to hear some comments about the benefits of using a high speed video camera in pool instruction from both instructors and students. Also, who are the best instructors using these cameras?

Without doubt using a camera is the only way to teach students how talented I am. Jeez, some of them can't even run three freekin balls. And don't forget to throw your cue down on the table either. That's very important in my opinion, which is what counts. As for the camera, you'd better ask the wonderdog. He takes care of the technical stuff.

Fast Larry

 

[Mark Avlon]

Why are you looking for an instructor with a high speed camera?

If your looking to see what happens at tip to cue ball contact, there is the Jacksonville Project video, and Dr. Dave's high speed videos.

If you're looking for an instructor who uses video in their instruction, there are many that do. The benefits of using of video to show the student where they can improve, and then to show them the improvements, is tremendous. It allows the student to see for themselves what they are doing. The video doesn't deny or hide anything.

 

[Tennesseejoe]

Thanks to all for your responses. I think you are right---no need for a high speed video, maybe just professional quality. My objective its to examine my stroke in slow motion and my shot alignment.

Will any instructors have the capability to do this at the DCC? In the AZ Room or where ever? What would be the fees to do this?

 

[Ltldebbie]

Isn't Jimmy Reid in your area? He has a web site and a D*** good instructor. Need I say any more. I have heard he is not feeling well but I'm sure he will still help if he can.

 

[pooltchr]

Thanks to all for your responses. I think you are right---no need for a high speed video, maybe just professional quality. My objective its to examine my stroke in slow motion and my shot alignment.

Will any instructors have the capability to do this at the DCC? In the AZ Room or where ever? What would be the fees to do this?

What part of Tennessee are you in? I do this with every student in my classes in Charlotte. If you aren't too far, it might be possible for one of us to travel to the other.
Steve

 

[Tennesseejoe]

What part of Tennessee are you in? I do this with every student in my classes in Charlotte. If you aren't too far, it might be possible for one of us to travel to the other.
Steve

Nashville area

 

[Flex]

Without doubt using a camera is the only way to teach students how talented I am. Jeez, some of them can't even run three freekin balls. And don't forget to throw your cue down on the table either. That's very important in my opinion, which is what counts. As for the camera, you'd better ask the wonderdog. He takes care of the technical stuff.

Fast Larry

Welcome back, Fast!

What took you so long?

 

[randyg]

I would like to hear some comments about the benefits of using a high speed video camera in pool instruction from both instructors and students.

Also, who are the best instructors using these cameras?

The three Instructors in your area that I would reccomend are:
Steve Jennings
Scott Lee
Randy Goettlicher

All of these Instructors are from the SPF school of thought and use the video as a normal teaching tool. There's no question that the camera is the best instructor in our school.

The amazing part is what these three BCA Instructors can analize from your video. Seeing is the start of healing.......SPF=randyg

 

[pooltchr]

The three Instructors in your area that I would reccomend are:
Steve Jennings
Scott Lee
Randy Goettlicher

All of these Instructors are from the SPF school of thought and use the video as a normal teaching tool. There's no question that the camera is the best instructor in our school.

The amazing part is what these three BCA Instructors can analize from your video. Seeing is the start of healing.......SPF=randyg

Thank you! I am honored to be included on that list!
Steve