Pool or Snooker, whose best.

BlowFish

BlowFish

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All this talk about whose better/good "Snooker Players or Pool Players" had me thinking lately. To me, both are entirely 2 different desciplines and require a different stroke and mindset.

Ok, granting that the ladys(WPBA) are dominated by snooker players(Fisher, Corr and others I don't know), may I therefore ask this question on the male side.

Is there any snooker title holder that has held a pool championship title in pool and vice versa?

Just curious. :)

PS: I know, "Curiosity killed the Cat".
 
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tony drago won the world pool masters in 2003. he's originally a snooker player (and has a break of over 147) but i don't think he's ever won a major snooker title.
 
he won the china masters in 1999 i think, and his break of 155 i believe was in practice when he was younger
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It is entirely possible that we will one day see someone be a top 5 player at both disciplines. I find it sad that many pool players are afraid to even try competitive snooker. They are simply afraid of stepping out of their comfort zone.

Snooker players who play pool sometimes are simply too lazy to practice things that they need to play top quality 9ball and it shows. When they lose they blame it on their 'inexperience'. Give me a break. They're snobs too.

3C players practically never get out of their pocketless tables.

These are the things I don't like about cueists in general. Most of them are not real sportsmen and rarely try different disciplines.

Let me give you a tennis example...Roger Federer is a very special tennis player who has no trouble winning on grass, clay, hardcourts, indoor...you name it. Very few players can master all surfaces, but ALL of them keep trying. Players who specialize for example on clay courts also have the courage to play on fast Wimbledon grass even though they know that they might get spanked. I only wish cueists would have a sporting attitude like that. Most of them don't however.
 
predator said:
It is entirely possible that we will one day see someone be a top 5 player at both disciplines. I find it sad that many pool players are afraid to even try competitive snooker. They are simply afraid of stepping out of their comfort zone.

Snooker players who play pool sometimes are simply too lazy to practice things that they need to play top quality 9ball and it shows. When they lose they blame it on their 'inexperience'. Give me a break. They're snobs too.

3C players practically never get out of their pocketless tables.

These are the things I don't like about cueists in general. Most of them are not real sportsmen and rarely try different disciplines.

Let me give you a tennis example...Roger Federer is a very special tennis player who has no trouble winning on grass, clay, hardcourts, indoor...you name it. Very few players can master all surfaces, but ALL of them keep trying. Players who specialize for example on clay courts also have the courage to play on fast Wimbledon grass even though they know that they might get spanked. I only wish cueists would have a sporting attitude like that. Most of them don't however.
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your not comparing correctly.. LOL .. your comparing TOTALLY different cue sports towards different tennis surfaces ?? lmao. the cue sports your talking about has different rules.. differnt balls.. different tables.. different size different sticks.. you cant compare that. what your saying is why dont roger federor go and dominate table tennis and badminton LMAO. the only way you can compare tennis surfaces is if we put simonis on one table and the rug on your living room floor on another and just the slate on an another .. makes no sense. sorry.
 
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cheemagun said:
your not comparing correctly.. LOL .. your comparing TOTALLY different cue sports towards different tennis surfaces ?? lmao. the cue sports your talking about has different rules.. differnt balls.. different tables.. different size different sticks.. you cant compare that. what your saying is why dont roger federor go and dominate table tennis and badminton LMAO. the only way you can compare tennis surfaces is if we put simonis on one table and the rug on your living room floor on another and just the slate on an another .. makes no sense. sorry.
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what he was saying has a point to it, u should be well rounded in your sport, table tennis to tennis would be about the best comparison, it would be easier for a tennis player (bigger court) to become a ping pong player (smaller court) just as it would be easier for a snooker player (bigger table) to become a pool player (smaller table), and just like a snooker player, i doubt any time soon a tennis player would want much if anything to do with table tennis, but it would be a tougher transition for the tennis player compared to the snooker player
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Tennis to Ping Pong? Are you seriously suggesting that or is it a joke?
 
are u seriously trying to have a discussion here, or are you your normal flaming self? i had never thought about it until cheese butchered his comparison to playing on different courts to pool/snooker, the more i think about it the more it makes sense, when i go from tennis to ping pong my basic strategy is still the same, but i have to make adjustments in my techniques (grips, stance, foot work) just like i do when i switch from pool to snooker i have to change my bridge and my stance. I was a solid junior tennis player in my younger years, and i always knew that it wouldn't take much to be a highly competitve ping pong player if i ever chose to be, no it's not a perfect comparison, but do u have a better one in mind?
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Johnson said:
no it's not a perfect comparison, but do u have a better one in mind?
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You were given one that you ignored and replaced with Ping Pong. Badminton. Or you can use Racketbal or squash as a comparison for pool to carom billiards. Those are far better examples of similar comparisons. Your comparison is akin to using golf and mini putt.
 
u obviously don't have any understanding of racket sports if u think that badminton is as comparable to tennis as ping pong is, as for racketball, i've never even played the game, but i spent a good part of my youth learning how to play tennis by playing against a wall, and i have no doubts that i'd be a highly competitive racketball player just as any snooker player that's never played pool wouldn't take much for them to become a highly competitve pool player
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Pingpong is played on a surface about what, 1/100th the of the size of a tennis court? You can sit their and claim to be an expert on racket sports all you want but that baseless claim is not going to make me think Pingpong and Tennis are nearly as similar games as snooker and pool and I have no problem saying Badminton and Tennis are a better comparison. There are differences in both games just like there are in pool and snooker. Both use a net, both use stringed rackets, one uses a bird while one uses a ball but the effect is not totally different except for the fact that in badminton the bird never hits the ground except for a point. They are played a relatively simlar playing surface sizes though, they both require large amounts of movement over large playing areas unlike Pingpong that is much smaller movements even at the pro level when standing a good 5 feet back from the table. Tennis and badminton are both games that are similar in pace, Pingpong is WAY faster at the pro level and tends alot more towards reflexive movements and hand eye coordination whereas Tennis and Badminton are more athletic competitions. I would think a world class tennis player would be a very good badminton player with some practice. I dont think the shift from tennis to ping pong would be similar at all and a world class tennis player could be pretty lousy at pingpong, they are nothing similar and dont use the same skill sets.
 
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You can sit their and claim to be an expert on racket sports all you want but that baseless claim is not going to make me think Pingpong and Tennis are nearly as similar games as snooker and pool
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where did i officially state that i'm an expert on racket sports? theres a fine line between being an expert and using your common sense first hand knowledge/experience to support a claim, the more times u reply, the more your ignorance about racket sports shows
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Johnson said:
where did i officially state that i'm an expert on racket sports? theres a fine line between being an expert and using your common sense first hand knowledge/experience to support a claim, the more times u reply, the more your ignorance about racket sports shows
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Uhh, yeah. Like the mass of actual facts and debate present in the above post for example? I actually posted quite a few reasons why I thought your comparison was a poor one based on my experiance playing those sports (which I have) and you come back with a post that has zero facts or reasoning behind your claims whatsoever. Way to prove your theory.
 
I compare pool players to golfers...They both must have a good stroke and have a sense of finesse. They must also know how to read the layout. I can go on, but it's late...

This is more of a commom sense comparison than what I have read.
 
Comparing ping pong to tennis is pretty laughable. The techniques are totally different, they're only similar to the effect that the top spin shots in both sports takes a bottom up motion. The grips on a paddle and racquet are different, the stance's different, the way you apply spin on the balls are different, the rules are different, the way the balls react off the surfaces are different, the nuissances of the games are vastly different, the footworks are different, the games are totally different. Has anybody seen a world class tennis player being a world class ping pong player? I doubt it.

I used to be a competitve tennis player (not that i was any good). I've played ping-pong another good tennis player before. We played ping pong like we play tennis, ie- we hit every shot with a tennis swing. It works to a certain extend if you're only trying to rally; but to play competitively with a real ping-pong player, we were nowhere near them.
 
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SplicedPoints said:
I used to be a competitve tennis player (not that i was any good). I've played ping-pong another good tennis player before. We played ping pong like we play tennis, ie- we hit every shot with a tennis swing. It works to a certain extend if you're only trying to rally; but to play competitively with a real ping-pong player, we were nowhere near them.
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to me, when i say i was a competitive tennis player, that not only meant that i "competed" but that i competed against the top players in my area and won tournaments,


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I've played ping-pong another good tennis player before. We played ping pong like we play tennis, ie- we hit every shot with a tennis swing. It works to a certain extend if you're only trying to rally; but to play competitively with a real ping-pong player, we were nowhere near them.
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you stated that "not that i was any good" but yet you played ping pong with "another good tennis player" , a lot of why elite athletes are elite athletes is do to their abilities to make adjustments to many different things, and you honestly think that professional tennis players couldn't make the proper adjustments to play ping pong at an extremely high level? i haven't seen a world class tennis player dropping down the millions of dollars of playing tennis to go for the real big bucks of ping pong, just like i haven't seen any world class snooker players dropping down the millions of dollars of playing snooker to take up the real big bucks in playing pool, i think you both missed my point, sorry to be so blunt but nothing really seems to sink in with celtic he's very close minded, and uses illogic instead of logic
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Johnson said:
sorry to be so blunt but nothing really seems to sink in with celtic he's very close minded, and uses illogic instead of logic
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Coming from you thats a laugh. I have explained my reasoning behind Badminton being a more comparable sport and you have responded with nothing but personal attacks throughout the course of the thread. And all the while you sit there and think you are the voice of reason and the one using logic. Come out of dream land into the real world.
 
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Coming from you thats a laugh. I have explained my reasoning behind Badminton being a more comparable sport and you have responded with nothing but personal attacks throughout the course of the thread. And all the while you sit there and think you are the voice of reason and the one using logic. Come out of dream land into the real world.
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you are delusionally funny, i haven't attacked you, i've tried my damndest to stick to facts and not personal attacks which seems to be your forte, i was going to respond to your badminton theory, but a tennis player would know that the 2 games really have nothing to do with each other from a physics stand point as well as a tecnical one, as comparing tennis and ping pong, as far as personal attacks go i wouldn't come out to what someone has said and say it's a joke, if anything the jokes on you pal, while i put my opinion up for debate you whip out your flame thrower and start flaming away the dam thread just as u normally do
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