Pool Tournament pay-outs verses Pro Bowling Tournament Pay-outs

ronhudson said:
I like the "lane condition" info on the tournament website. That one was rated "scorpion" which means dangerous and unpredictable. HA.

We should have some "table condition" rating system for equipment in pool tournaments. The "scorpion" rating would work for some pool tables too. Maybe have a "cheeta" condition for very fast cloth. I know some tables that could qualify for "turtle" or "slug" conditions. Maybe have some other ratings to indicate how often the balls are polished (if ever)... Some possibilities there.
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that is funny. I couldnt even imagine where we would start rating pool tables. u gotta acount for humidity,table roll,lint,slow,fast cloth and god knows what else.
 
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jay helfert said:
My question is WHERE did all the money go! It looks like these 105 guys are getting the royal shaft! It looks like more than half the $29,000 did not get paid back in prize money. Now go back and ask your source where all the money went. If this happened in pool, there would be an uproar. I may go into the bowling business. I'd like to put one of these on every week. I'd get rich. :smile:
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Hey Jay.....you would really get rich if you could put on a WSOP poker tournament....I am just floored when I see how much Harrah's takes out for those WSOP tournaments......It gets into the $millions, doesn't it?
 
The WSOP takes 3% off the top. So just add up all the entries for every WSOP event, then multiply that by the entry fee, and take 3%... Yeah, WAY into the millions.

JUST the 2008 Main event had 6844 Entrants at $10,000 per each. Take 3% of that, and the main event ALONE made Harrah's Entertainment $2,053,200... If I had to guess, the total take for the year was well over 5 million.
 
Still_Learning said:
Yes, but bowling's easier to understand for the unsophisticated viewer. Roll ball at pins, pins fall down. Once you get used to the idea that the bowlers usually hook the ball, and therefore start by aiming at the gutter, bowling couldn't be any simpler.

Pool is so much more than "knock white ball into colored ball and colored ball into pocket" that unsophisticated viewers don't get it. "If that guy's so great, why didn't he just shoot the easy shot?" How many times have you heard that one?

I understand about oil patterns and ball reactions and different ball drilling strategies and all that, so I know there's more to bowling than there seems to be. But you don't have to understand any of that to watch the pins fall down. Whereas, just try to watch a defensive game of eight-ball between expert players if all you know is "pocket the object balls."

In this way, pool is closer to games like chess, where deep strategy often means you make moves that seem stupid to the novice. There's no equivalent to deep strategy in bowling.

Or golf, for that matter.
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You're right about bowling, bowling is bowling and easily understood. It's the deep strategy of certain pool games that make it painfully slow and boring to watch.
 
Tom In Cincy said:
So you can now see that there were more than 16 players being paid, correct?
Which really changes your original post comparing this payout to pool payouts.
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Well the Manager of the Facility came back today. He had limited information to share.

But said Expenses paid out of entree fees included fees use of Facility for Three Days, Sanctioning Fees Paid the the Pro Bowlers Association, Association Staff that were on site all three days, Brunswick Technician that was on Site with "Special Equipment", etc., etc., etc., etc., etc.

Bottom line is IMHO Pool players get a better return on entree fees paid to play in a local or national tournament, as a larger percentage come back to them in prize money.
 
jay helfert said:
My question is WHERE did all the money go! It looks like these 105 guys are getting the royal shaft! It looks like more than half the $29,000 did not get paid back in prize money. Now go back and ask your source where all the money went. If this happened in pool, there would be an uproar. I may go into the bowling business. I'd like to put one of these on every week. I'd get rich. :smile:
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yeah, i can see it now.... and you could put on the flyers "sponsored" by hard times and tiger products.
 
Still_Learning said:
Yes, but bowling's easier to understand for the unsophisticated viewer. Roll ball at pins, pins fall down. Once you get used to the idea that the bowlers usually hook the ball, and therefore start by aiming at the gutter, bowling couldn't be any simpler.

Pool is so much more than "knock white ball into colored ball and colored ball into pocket" that unsophisticated viewers don't get it. "If that guy's so great, why didn't he just shoot the easy shot?" How many times have you heard that one?

I understand about oil patterns and ball reactions and different ball drilling strategies and all that, so I know there's more to bowling than there seems to be. But you don't have to understand any of that to watch the pins fall down. Whereas, just try to watch a defensive game of eight-ball between expert players if all you know is "pocket the object balls."

In this way, pool is closer to games like chess, where deep strategy often means you make moves that seem stupid to the novice. There's no equivalent to deep strategy in bowling.

Or golf, for that matter.
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While I would concede that bowling is monotonously simple, it doesn't take an Einstein to follow a 9-ball runout.

Defensive strategies in 8-ball and 1-pocket, sure, it'd be a little tough, especially without good commentary, but 9-ball?

The hardest part is just seeing which ball is which, and they could solve that fairly easily if they had to. Most of the time in a 9-ball match is offensive, which is as easy as counting to 9.

There may be some pretty tough barriers and challenges and we may shoot ourselves in the foot a lot, but looking at some of the other junk that is successful on TV, I'm just saying there's got to be a way, IMO.
 
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