Position play

NOSAJ03

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How did you learn how to play position and using english for position purposes? What type of drills to you use when you practice before a match or just out shooting? I play ok position, I know I can do better. When I shoot, most of the time I know how to shoot the shot and where I want the cueball to be for the next shot but when I actually shoot using english or no english the cueball ends up somewhere else or does something I didnt think it would do. What would you suggest I do in order to play better position and become a better player. I know that it may be fundamentals but I just cant explain how the same shot done the same way can do something different. Im really just looking for consistancy. thanks
 
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Keith, I am in the mood to type so let me try this one and if I miss something, help me out.
I think the first thing you need to do is know the rails. Position is alot easier when you are comfortable with them. A few examples. When you need to go back down table, there are certain shots that if you hit a certain rail, you will ALWAYS be coming in line for your next shot. These are much eaiser then trying to draw and follow, when a center ball hit will be better. English does funny things, but also center ball, or just high low english is the first choice. I am sure you know that the lower you hit on the cue ball, the wider the angle the cue ball takes. This is good to know when you come off rails, you can decide weather you want to go one rail or two for your next shot, or go above or under a ball.
I would say that once shot making is no longer an issue (for consistnecy) position play is the next most important aspect of a good game. Pros are so good, cause they have easy shots to shoot.
I would recomend doing drills for this. Robert byrnes power workout vol. 5 is really good. There is a section on ten drills for position play. The other is the LESSON by the monk. If you do all the drills in this book, you will be very cometitive. I would be better is I wasn't so lazy on drills.
And remember, the saying that everyone in here says is so so so so true, that bad practice is worse then no practice at all.
Jordan
 
NOSAJ03 said:
How did you learn how to play position and using english for position purposes? What type of drills to you use when you practice before a match or just out shooting? I play ok position, I know I can do better. When I shoot, most of the time I know how to shoot the shot and where I want the cueball to be for the next shot but when I actually shoot using english or no english the cueball ends up somewhere else or does something I didnt think it would do. What would you suggest I do in order to play better position and become a better player. I know that it may be fundamentals but I just cant explain how the same shot done the same way can do something different. Im really just looking for consistancy. thanks

NOSAJ03, when I am practicing, I try to use a lot of spin, to see how much spin I'm getting on the cue-ball because equipment will vary from table to table. Once I adjust to the speed of the table, then I will begin to work on my english shots.

Keep working with englishes. If you are not comfortable with all englishes, keep experimenting until you can develop more stroke and follow-through on the cue-ball. That is what I try to do when I am trying to find my "feels." Feels are very important to me, and once I start getting loose, my englishes and shapes will take its course.
 
position play

Keith, I am in a predicament about position as well. I play in central Iowa and there are very few "great players" and even fewer 9 footers. My question is what books or accustat videos are best to learn the proper way to play position. I play well but sometimes i'm told you got shape, but not the right way. I am working to change my shape into more 2 rail, in-line position play. Any ideas? I also want to say thanks for all of your input. You always take the time to answer all questions no matter how mundane or simple. This says alot about your character and I hope you know we are all very appreciative of your willingness to share your wisdom.
 
T-dog said:
Keith, I am in a predicament about position as well. I play in central Iowa and there are very few "great players" and even fewer 9 footers. My question is what books or accustat videos are best to learn the proper way to play position. I play well but sometimes i'm told you got shape, but not the right way. I am working to change my shape into more 2 rail, in-line position play. Any ideas? I also want to say thanks for all of your input. You always take the time to answer all questions no matter how mundane or simple. This says alot about your character and I hope you know we are all very appreciative of your willingness to share your wisdom.

I am from Iowa and there are a ton of decent players, where in Iowa are you at?
 
prewarhero said:
I am from Iowa and there are a ton of decent players, where in Iowa are you at?

No kidding! I live in Oklahoma, was in Forrest City IA a few years back at a little bar / restaurant and had my ass handed to me by one of the locals. That's been awhile, and I've improved a bunch, but he probably has too!
 
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