Practice versus action

Williebetmore said:
Scott,
Hard to disagree with your assessment. Of couse, the corollary to your axiom is that 15 minutes of play is also worth several hours of practice.

I feel confident that there are many fanatic practicers out there (like me) who practice so extensively and compete so rarely, that they find it difficult to bring their best game to a competitive situation.

If it takes you several minutes to "find" your best stroke in a practice situation; you then have an hour to work on your game. If it takes you several minutes to find your stroke during a game of straight pool, then you have an hour to sit on your a$$. Developing the ability to bring your best stroke right out of the chair is something that does seem to take some "playing time."

Have you any nuggets on how to work on this problem? I've tried to take frequent mini-breaks during practice; with special attention to trying to make my best stroke upon return to the table.....but in competition where there is that little extra adrenaline tightness, everything seems a bit different. I'm not sure there is any way to simulate that in practice.

Ewa Laurence once told me a pot of coffee for practice. Yes, caffeine jitters can simulate a case of the nerves to a degree. This does somewhat work as you have to push through a tightness of sorts. Try it, it is a neat experience to try and perform under. But this doesn't remedy the mental aspects of the game.

The competitive arena is a social arena first and foremost. Everyone present and everyone they know are privy to the outcome of this match. The game you have spent countless hours honing can be viewed as better or worse than it really is. What we fear is the worst... a bad performance.

Everyone of us care greatly on how others view us. We care about our social standing and that in itself creates a nameless type of pressure. It doesn't in itself give you a negative vibe or anything; what it does give you the feeling of something else is there. What that something else turns out to be is an unresolved issue.

Our minds bring situations to our attention because the mind deems it important. We do this thousands of times during the day. As in...don't forget your keys or you will lock them in the car. Or I need to get that Valentine Card or I'm a dead man. It is an automatic response and we resolve these issues everyday. The more they mean to us the more weight they carry. It doesn't help that the more this thought lingers in the background of your mind the harder it is to become comfortable.

Think about it. When you play well in practice you are comfortable. So do not let the issue remain unresolved. Resolve it. Remember the situation, how you resolved it and the results from it.

When issues arise about playing position we must resolve them right? Your probably going to miss if you cannot entirely decide on a specific course of action right? Train the mind to recognize that your not comfortable. Find the reason. Then right or wrong find a solution to resolve it. If your issue still lingers around like flatulence your fix didn't work. Try plan "B" and so on.

This is a learned game. Both the physical and mental parts of the game. Yet we forget most of what we learn of the mental game. Why? The problem is that solving everyday mundane issues is not something we remember because the mind already has the correct answer automatically in place. The repetition of doing this thousands of times a day sort of camouflages those mental game issues in with the rest of those resolved issues. Thats why we cannot recall how we resolved mental game issues in the past.

Recognize the uncomfortable.
Resolve the issue.
Write it down the specifics.

Of course this doesn't quite answer the question what to do during practice. :o

It's not a silver bullet but it s better than a kick in the head. :p
 
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renard said:
Ewa Laurence once told me a pot of coffee for practice. Yes, caffeine jitters can simulate a case of the nerves to a degree. This does somewhat work as you have to push through a tightness of sorts. Try it, it is a neat experience to try and perform under. But this doesn't remedy the mental aspects of the game. :p


LOL..........There are quite a few pool players that can't wake up enough to even play pool until they have had a pot of coffe...
 
BRKNRUN said:
LOL..........There are quite a few pool players that can't wake up enough to even play pool until they have had a pot of coffe...

True! True!
 
BRKNRUN said:
LOL..........There are quite a few pool players that can't wake up enough to even play pool until they have had a pot of coffe...

For some, you may have to leave out the "of coffe" at the end ;)
 
fan-tum said:
Do you think it's true that one hour of playing for money is more beneficial to your game than five hours of practice?

depends on what your goal is. if you just want to play good and make balls then no because your playing less time and shooting fewer balls.

however if you want to become a seasoned player the pressure of action is 10X better than practice. after a tough session practice seems easy, for the first hour.


Since most players goal is to become a winner then action is the best way to improve,
 
I see a lot of good info in this post. Being that we are all different, probably means we have different needs & even different ways to maintain our game and/or obtain success in our competition.

There is one thing, which I've learned in the last year & that is this. A winning frame of mind goes a long way, toward successful goals & without practice, confidence can be eroded quickly by only few errant losses. I played well through mid 2006. I sold my Pool Table & physically moved my home & shop twice.

Now I'm at the stage where winning has become a question in my mind. Since I can't practice at the moment, my confidence to perform is very shaky. I long for the future where I can bang balls around my Pool Table in the shop. Maybe then then I will regain that inside feeling that everything is working well.

My suggestion is this; perfect practice is good for your game & competitive play is very rewarding for your mind & your self esteem.. Maintaining one side of the equation, to stabilize the other side of the equation, is probably a worthy goal in itself.
 
ceebee said:
I see a lot of good info in this post. Being that we are all different, probably means we have different needs & even different ways to maintain our game and/or obtain success in our competition.

There is one thing, which I've learned in the last year & that is this. A winning frame of mind goes a long way, toward successful goals & without practice, confidence can be eroded quickly by only few errant losses. I played well through mid 2006. I sold my Pool Table & physically moved my home & shop twice.

Now I'm at the stage where winning has become a question in my mind. Since I can't practice at the moment, my confidence to perform is very shaky. I long for the future where I can bang balls around my Pool Table in the shop. Maybe then then I will regain that inside feeling that everything is working well.

My suggestion is this; perfect practice is good for your game & competitive play is very rewarding for your mind & your self esteem.. Maintaining one side of the equation, to stabilize the other side of the equation, is probably a worthy goal in itself.

I like this, great little line there CeeBee
 
hang-the-9 said:
I'm sorry but I just don't belive that. You cannot improve by just playing matches without going out and hitting the same shot 50 times or running some drills. Sure you can gain the ability to focus when there is money on the line, and you can even see shots the other guy knows that you store away for use. But what is that when you don't know how to pocket a ball with english, or the right speed to hit a 3-rail position shot? And that you get from practice. Your arm and your eyes and your brain need to work together, the instructors would call it "developing muscle memory for the shot".
Sorry Hangthenine, I can't make you believe me, but if you can find
anyone out there (from my days) who EVER saw me practicing, I'll
give you my dog. And I love her ! (That does not mean I did not
practice between games on a shot I just missed for the cash!)
Drills are for buck privates in boot camp, plus who said I ever
improved.
 
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fan-tum said:
Do you think it's true that one hour of playing for money is more beneficial to your game than five hours of practice?

Question = Too vague
Answer = yes/no (it depends)
 
hang-the-9 said:
I'm sorry but I just don't belive that. You cannot improve by just playing matches without going out and hitting the same shot 50 times or running some drills. Sure you can gain the ability to focus when there is money on the line, and you can even see shots the other guy knows that you store away for use. But what is that when you don't know how to pocket a ball with english, or the right speed to hit a 3-rail position shot? And that you get from practice. Your arm and your eyes and your brain need to work together, the instructors would call it "developing muscle memory for the shot".

As an older player, the only thing I need to practice for is to get loose and get my mechanics in order. Too much practice will get me more out of stroke than in. Your eyes and your brain know what to do, you just have to have your body (mechanics) in shape to deliver what they already know. One of the wonderful things about pool is you can achieve great success with limited physical tools. Anybody ever watch Eddie Robin play three cushion? He was a USA Champion and played pretty sporty banks and one pocket in his day. Hard work and determination probably helped him more than natural ability. So there is a guy that fits what you are talking about. Then you have the young guys like Cole Dickson and Keith McCready. They knew what to do and when to do it almost immediately. Granted, there are not many like them, but most of the rest of us are in between. In his heyday, Ronnie Allen could go a month or two without hitting a ball and come back at his highest level, but it wouldn't be in practice. I practice now more than I have in 50+ years of playing pool. It is not my preference, but there is just not that much action and at my age you do have to hit balls at least a couple times a week to keep the game up. We are all different and as an oldtimer who still gambles some, I am used to easing out of the gate in a match. This causes me some problems in tournament play, but old habits are hard to break. If drills and a routine make you think it helps your game, then it does because playing good pool is mental as much or more than anything else. John Henderson
 
jrhendy said:
As an older player, the only thing I need to practice for is to get loose and get my mechanics in order. Too much practice will get me more out of stroke than in. Your eyes and your brain know what to do, you just have to have your body (mechanics) in shape to deliver what they already know. One of the wonderful things about pool is you can achieve great success with limited physical tools. Anybody ever watch Eddie Robin play three cushion? He was a USA Champion and played pretty sporty banks and one pocket in his day. Hard work and determination probably helped him more than natural ability. So there is a guy that fits what you are talking about. Then you have the young guys like Cole Dickson and Keith McCready. They knew what to do and when to do it almost immediately. Granted, there are not many like them, but most of the rest of us are in between. In his heyday, Ronnie Allen could go a month or two without hitting a ball and come back at his highest level, but it wouldn't be in practice. I practice now more than I have in 50+ years of playing pool. It is not my preference, but there is just not that much action and at my age you do have to hit balls at least a couple times a week to keep the game up. We are all different and as an oldtimer who still gambles some, I am used to easing out of the gate in a match. This causes me some problems in tournament play, but old habits are hard to break. If drills and a routine make you think it helps your game, then it does because playing good pool is mental as much or more than anything else. John Henderson

I was talking more about learning the game. Once you have played for 10 years or more, just playing in matches would keep your game up. I have taken a year or more off when I barely hit a ball, then come back just as good as the last time I remember playing. Someone that is trying to get better though, I just don't see that happening with just match play. Sure you learn to focus and not choke better, but matches usually will not teach you new shots or fix anything wrong with your stoke.
 
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