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I always wished I had a list of the players and what tips they used on their cues and if they used low deflection shafts or not.
I'd love to know what percentage of pros play with low deflection and if a certain tip stands out as a clear favorite.
Anybody ever see a list of such a thing?
Thanks.
 
Yeah, never seen a list but the above referenced videos are a fun resource if you're interested. I like watching them occasionally, fun to see what all pros carry in their case.

I haven't noticed any real consensus on tips or anything, seems to be a pretty broad range being used. I'd say the vast majority of pro players are using low deflection and carbon these days. Many of the wood shafts you still see are low deflection. But there do appear to be a few still playing with classic wood shafts.
 
There are tons of professional equipment out there; Predator, Mezz, Lucasi and various other pro equipment.

My pro setup for competing is my Mezz and a BK breaker.

My chill setup are my customs when I'm just messing around.

Everyone should have a pro setup and a regular casual setup.
 
billiards_watch said:
There are tons of professional equipment out there; Predator, Mezz, Lucasi and various other pro equipment.

My pro setup for competing is my Mezz and a BK breaker.

My chill setup are my customs when I'm just messing around.

Everyone should have a pro setup and a regular casual setup.
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WTF??? a 'pro' set-up and a 'casual' set-up???? Do you have ANY idea just how fkng stupid that even sounds????? Wow.
 
garczar said:
WTF??? a 'pro' set-up and a 'casual' set-up???? Do you have ANY idea just how fkng stupid that even sounds????? Wow.
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It means when its time to compete you grab the 3 seconds case with all your gear.

When hanging out with buddies you grab the Justis case with the Gina inside.

Nobody competes with a Szam or Gina. Nobody will take us seriously. LOL
 
The "pro setup" has the property that you can replace it at a few moments notice--unlike that of a custom cue where you wait years between order and delivery.
{{Just like a race car that gets totaled--just pull another one out from the truck}}
 
MitchAlsup said:
The "pro setup" has the property that you can replace it at a few moments notice--unlike that of a custom cue where you wait years between order and delivery.
{{Just like a race car that gets totaled--just pull another one out from the truck}}
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Yea something like that.

Doesn't everyone have pro gear and collector gear?

Just like professional shooting. You got you competition gun and you're not going to use that Ed Brown 1911 to plunk targets in a match.
 
billiards_watch said:
There are tons of professional equipment out there; Predator, Mezz, Lucasi and various other pro equipment.

My pro setup for competing is my Mezz and a BK breaker.

My chill setup are my customs when I'm just messing around.

Everyone should have a pro setup and a regular casual setup.
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Some of your ideas are unique to say the least. And full disclosure, I'm not entirely convinced you aren't here just to drive engagement. Regardless, I'll bite.

What exactly would the benefit(s) be of having "pro" and "casual" setups? The only possible positive my admittedly limited imagination can come up with for using multiple cues or "setups" would be if someone gets into a slump and swaps out their cue for a different feel. Sometimes that can kind of kick start the slump recovery process. Otherwise, it just seems like a really good way to get not very good with any of them.
 
billiards_watch said:
It means when its time to compete you grab the 3 seconds case with all your gear.

When hanging out with buddies you grab the Justis case with the Gina inside.

Nobody competes with a Szam or Gina. Nobody will take us seriously. LOL
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What's the downside to your opponent not taking you seriously? That's the embodiment of "I don't play very good but I like to gamble" but they're doing the work for you.
 
1pocketguru said:
I always wished I had a list of the players and what tips they used on their cues and if they used low deflection shafts or not.
I'd love to know what percentage of pros play with low deflection and if a certain tip stands out as a clear favorite.
Anybody ever see a list of such a thing?
Thanks.
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Just a complete guess on my part, and just as a general statement regarding equipment choices.

I would suspect that 'pros' utilize equipment wherein maintenance cost/effort are not a factor. For example.... I play with a hard tip. Not that a hard vs soft tip will give any more/less performance. However the hard nature of that tip allows me to play for extend periods with near zero maintenance on shape, glazing and provides consistent performance throughout it's life. The con of such a tip is the harsh feedback/feel. I have used my player with a soft tip and I thoroughly enjoy the hit using one in orders of magnitude more. I believe a 'pro' player will opt for that soft option, because time burnt changing and conditioning their playing tip can be perceived as an investment in their performance.

When I was chasing soft tip performance the shaping was continuous and replacements were no more than a couple months of casual play. Pros likely rip through them in a couple of weeks. If that long....
 
The_JV said:
Just a complete guess on my part, and just as a general statement regarding equipment choices.

I would suspect that 'pros' utilize equipment wherein maintenance cost/effort are not a factor. For example.... I play with a hard tip. Not that a hard vs soft tip will give any more/less performance. However the hard nature of that tip allows me to play for extend periods with near zero maintenance on shape, glazing and provides consistent performance throughout it's life. The con of such a tip is the harsh feedback/feel. I have used my player with a soft tip and I thoroughly enjoy the hit using one in orders of magnitude more. I believe a 'pro' player will opt for that soft option, because time burnt changing and conditioning their playing tip can be perceived as an investment in their performance.

When I was chasing soft tip performance the shaping was continuous and replacements were no more than a couple months of casual play. Pros likely rip through them in a couple of weeks. If that long....
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Tips are made to be change often.

I try to change them once a year and it allows me to scruff and shape every time I play. We should be blasting through a few in a year.

You're suppose to be scruff it every time. It should feel like suede. You don't want it compressed and smooth where it doesn't hold chalk anymore.
 
billiards_watch said:
Tips are made to be change often.

I try to change them once a year and it allows me to scruff and shape every time I play.
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"Often" is clearly a subjective word. I wouldn't classify annually as often. I'm sure pros playing with soft tips would consider that eternity. Sporadic amateurs might even consider a yearly soft tip swap a lengthy amount of time.
billiards_watch said:
You're suppose to be scruff it every time. It should feel like suede. You don't want it compressed and smooth where it doesn't hold chalk anymore.
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"feel like suede"...?..., the fuzzy material..?.

Well these things are subjective preferences, so I won't say you're wrong about how a tip should feel when touched. However, our opinions are vastly different. FWIW, hard tips are compressed medium tips, which are compressed soft tips.... The only tip conditioning tool I use is a pick. Which does not scuff it or make it feel like suede. I'm no pro, but it's worked well for me.
 
I like pool cues.
I like to play with all my pool cues.
But I do admit that not playing with the same cue all the time will hurt your game, so if you compete and you want to maintain a level of play and improve, it’s important to keep as many variants as possible constant.
When I used to compete, then during a league season I would stick to one cue and one shaft. And although, I’ve used the same type of shaft on all my cues, different butts, do feel differently and will influence your game.
 
billiards_watch said:
My pro setup for competing is my Mezz and a BK breaker.

My chill setup are my customs when I'm just messing around.

Everyone should have a pro setup and a regular casual setup.
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billiards_watch said:
It means when its time to compete you grab the 3 seconds case with all your gear.

When hanging out with buddies you grab the Justis case with the Gina inside.

Nobody competes with a Szam or Gina. Nobody will take us seriously. LOL
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The serious player uses the same equipment all the time. It becomes an extension of his / her arm.

Again nobody gives a shit what you are playing with. If you don't have game with any kind of cue then being taken seriously isn't going to happen.

Yes everyone who doesn't want to get the most out of their game should have a pro setup and a regular setup. Perhaps throw in a couple more & switch back and forth all the time.
 
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