I picked up my new table yesterday, only to find out that on this style of bar table there is no wood behind the slate. There are about 4 or 5 aluminum supports going across that support the slate. With this design of table you have to affix the cloth to the slate and then drop the slate into place. It has used old stickers running along the top edge (under where the rails go) and another sticker running along the bottom edge all the way around. Anyone have any suggestions on how to affix the cloth? What kind of stickers do i use?
Problem! Affixing cloth directly to Slate (No Wood to Staple too)
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Mueller's have a 3M adhesive that they sell.
http://www.poolndarts.com/index.cfm...ductID/3727.cfm?CFID=8082623&CFTOKEN=40633896
http://www.poolndarts.com/index.cfm...ductID/3727.cfm?CFID=8082623&CFTOKEN=40633896
Jaz you beat me to it. BTW fxskater you can buy the 3m stuff from walmart for cheap.
When you do it spray the cloth and the slate. Wait a minute and stick. The stuff works GREAT!!!
JV
When you do it spray the cloth and the slate. Wait a minute and stick. The stuff works GREAT!!!
JV
i ve installed many tables just go to lowes or homedepot and buy 3m spray glue its pretty easy to do just make sure you spray an even coat of glue on the slate and on the edge of the cloth let it set up for like 3- 5 min then stick the cloth to the slate.fxskater said:
good luck.
How will i know how much the cloth stretches when i spray it? Would you spray the top of the slate and the bottom, or just the bottom? I think i will lay the cloth on the table and mark where i am going to spray it with a marker an inch inside where it 'Lays' so that when i stretch it it will line up.
Spray underneath the slate & then a strip on the back of the cloth. Like these guys say, wait a few minutes and then press the cloth to the slate. Do the same on the other side and stretch as tight as you can. It should stretch a few inches. When you do around the pockets (especially the sides) use a piece of cardboard to catch some of the overspray of the contact glue. Once you do one bar table, you will see how easy it is. When recovering next time, there is no real need to use any solvent on the old glue. The old cloth should just be able to be ripped off. Wipe down the top of the slate to make sure it is clean and you are ready to go.
To put new cloth on a bar table...
1. The old cloth was glued on and this may have been done many times. Scrape off all of the old glue or use adhesive remover (do this outside). The old glue will cause the slate to sit higher and the cushions will not go down flush with the rails. So remove the old glue to do the job right.
2. Get a long piece of straight L shaped aluminum and sight down it to be sure it is straight. Cut it to the long size of your table and to the short size of your table. With the slate removed, place the L metal on the sides where the slate rests. Be sure all the supports are even. Use playing cards to shim low areas. Check the short directions and cross ways as well. You want all the slate supports flat all around. I used half a deck of cards to shim my table and had to sand down some areas.
If the supports were uneven before and you evened them out, (and the slate was warped a bit) it is my understanding that the slate will go back to being flat over time.
3. Lay out cloth on top of slate with a couple of inches overhang on all sides. Cut long pieces of cardboard to shield the table and the cloth from overspray of the spray adhesive.
4. Start at one of the long ends. Fold back the cloth laying on the slate and put a long piece of cardboard under it. Spray the cloth. Then spray the underside of the slate while holding a piece of cardboard so overspray will not get on anything else (if for example you have the slate sideways on top of your table). If you're not careful, overspray will get on the balls, side of the table, and rails. This stuff goes everywhere!
5. Wait about 2 or 3 minutes for the adhesive to dry a little. Then get another person. Fold the cloth down over the side. Have other person press with all their might with their thumb on the center of the cloth. Then pull with all your might to stretch cloth toward the corner pocket and press cloth to underside. Now pull the other direction, then other person can remove thumb.
6. Spray opposite long end. Have person do thumb thing again. This time pull with all your might (enough to pull slate off table) toward the corner pocket. You are stretching the cloth longways and shortways at the same time. Then do opposite side.
7. You now have the cloth stretched long ways. Next do the rest of the table.
8. Doing the pockets takes experience. You need to cut with scissors so the cloth can be glued under the slate to hold it in place. Leave plenty of extra cloth. I guess you just need to do this a few times to get the hang of it. But use a half circle shaped piece of cardboard to spray adhesive on the underside of the cloth so overspray will not get on the table top cloth. Also spray the pocket sides of the slate, as well as under the pockets, so the cloth will stay put.
Important note: Get a box of those medical gloves and wear a long sleeve shirt. Change gloves to a new clean pair as many as 20 times while doing this project. You don't want that spray adhesive on your hands or on hairy arms. Not fun to try to get it off! Do this in a well ventilated room.
1. The old cloth was glued on and this may have been done many times. Scrape off all of the old glue or use adhesive remover (do this outside). The old glue will cause the slate to sit higher and the cushions will not go down flush with the rails. So remove the old glue to do the job right.
2. Get a long piece of straight L shaped aluminum and sight down it to be sure it is straight. Cut it to the long size of your table and to the short size of your table. With the slate removed, place the L metal on the sides where the slate rests. Be sure all the supports are even. Use playing cards to shim low areas. Check the short directions and cross ways as well. You want all the slate supports flat all around. I used half a deck of cards to shim my table and had to sand down some areas.
If the supports were uneven before and you evened them out, (and the slate was warped a bit) it is my understanding that the slate will go back to being flat over time.
3. Lay out cloth on top of slate with a couple of inches overhang on all sides. Cut long pieces of cardboard to shield the table and the cloth from overspray of the spray adhesive.
4. Start at one of the long ends. Fold back the cloth laying on the slate and put a long piece of cardboard under it. Spray the cloth. Then spray the underside of the slate while holding a piece of cardboard so overspray will not get on anything else (if for example you have the slate sideways on top of your table). If you're not careful, overspray will get on the balls, side of the table, and rails. This stuff goes everywhere!
5. Wait about 2 or 3 minutes for the adhesive to dry a little. Then get another person. Fold the cloth down over the side. Have other person press with all their might with their thumb on the center of the cloth. Then pull with all your might to stretch cloth toward the corner pocket and press cloth to underside. Now pull the other direction, then other person can remove thumb.
6. Spray opposite long end. Have person do thumb thing again. This time pull with all your might (enough to pull slate off table) toward the corner pocket. You are stretching the cloth longways and shortways at the same time. Then do opposite side.
7. You now have the cloth stretched long ways. Next do the rest of the table.
8. Doing the pockets takes experience. You need to cut with scissors so the cloth can be glued under the slate to hold it in place. Leave plenty of extra cloth. I guess you just need to do this a few times to get the hang of it. But use a half circle shaped piece of cardboard to spray adhesive on the underside of the cloth so overspray will not get on the table top cloth. Also spray the pocket sides of the slate, as well as under the pockets, so the cloth will stay put.
Important note: Get a box of those medical gloves and wear a long sleeve shirt. Change gloves to a new clean pair as many as 20 times while doing this project. You don't want that spray adhesive on your hands or on hairy arms. Not fun to try to get it off! Do this in a well ventilated room.
Also before putting new cloth on slate, look for dings and bumps on the surface. Fill dings with autobody filler, then sand when dry. I lightly sand the whole top, then wipe down with a wet rag.
Then go over the whole surface with your hand to be sure it is smooth all over with no bumps or dings.
Then go over the whole surface with your hand to be sure it is smooth all over with no bumps or dings.