Procedure for leveling Gold Crown legs?

[Angle Detective]

This may be obvious to some, but I'm curious how the leg leveling is supposed to happen. I have a late Gold Crown I. There is a bolt without ends, a nut, the threaded foot, and a threaded sleeve that is screwed into the legs with a single screw.

1) The single screws for each threaded leg sleeve were loose in the table I just bought and allowed the sleeve to move up and down. Is this correct, or should the sleeve be tightly screwed into the leg portions?

2) Should the bolts be screwed all the way into the legs until they hit the wooden stop?

3) What part of the system should the nut be tight against, the leg or the foot?

4) Is it okay to use the levelers to add overall table height, or is it ill-advised and should shims be used under the feet instead?

Thank you.

 

[realkingcobra]

This may be obvious to some, but I'm curious how the leg leveling is supposed to happen. I have a late Gold Crown I. There is a bolt without ends, a nut, the threaded foot, and a threaded sleeve that is screwed into the legs with a single screw.

1) The single screws for each threaded leg sleeve were loose in the table I just bought and allowed the sleeve to move up and down. Is this correct, or should the sleeve be tightly screwed into the leg portions?

2) Should the bolts be screwed all the way into the legs until they hit the wooden stop?

3) What part of the system should the nut be tight against, the leg or the foot?

4) Is it okay to use the levelers to add overall table height, or is it ill-advised and should shims be used under the feet instead?

Thank you.

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[Angle Detective]

I figured it might be useful to actually have these answers on the forum for future users. I'm not setting up the table myself. I'm having a pro do it, but I'm really curious since the old service manuals I've seen don't go into detail.

 

[Angle Detective]

So far about 400 views and no answers. For such a popular table, I would have thought these were no-brainer questions.

 

[tjohnson]

One of the top table mechanics in the country gave you his personal phone number and offered to talk you through it. One option might be to take RKC up on his generous offer and then you could type up a how-to in this thread.

 

[Angle Detective]

One of the top table mechanics in the country gave you his personal phone number and offered to talk you through it. One option might be to take RKC up on his generous offer and then you could type up a how-to in this thread.

I appreciate that he offered his number. I know he's one of the top table mechanics in the country. But there's a reason I'm not taking him up on his offer. This is a public forum, and calling people privately defeats the purpose. I asked what should be simple questions for the many professionals who frequent this forum. And the answers to these questions could be available to others who search for them in the future.

 

[fastone371]

I dont think my GCI has jam nuts on the adjustable feet. When setting up my table, after I had the frame sitting on the legs and stringer I leveled it by turning the feet as needed. Then once I had the slate on and fastened I re-leveled the table by once again turning the feet as needed. It was actually pretty easy, just time consuming because machinists levels are so very sensitive.

 

[Angle Detective]

I dont think my GCI has jam nuts on the adjustable feet. When setting up my table, after I had the frame sitting on the legs and stringer I leveled it by turning the feet as needed. Then once I had the slate on and fastened I re-leveled the table by once again turning the feet as needed. It was actually pretty easy, just time consuming because machinists levels are so very sensitive.

Thanks. Do you know how far the threaded rod was into the leg before you started? Was it way up against the wood stop in the leg?

 

[Angle Detective]

Fastone371, I also forgot to ask you if the threaded sleeves inside the legs were tightly screwed in or had give to them. Thanks.

 

[Angle Detective]

https://www.classicbilliards.net/media/com_hikashop/upload/gc_nck_lg.jpg

Mechanics ?????

 

[fastone371]

Thanks. Do you know how far the threaded rod was into the leg before you started? Was it way up against the wood stop in the leg?

Fastone371, I also forgot to ask you if the threaded sleeves inside the legs were tightly screwed in or had give to them. Thanks.

If you go to my profile there are pictures of my GC when I was setting it up. One group of pics the table is all white, the other group of pics is when I refinished the table and had the rails modified, there is stain and white paint on the legs. If you cant get an idea of how far the feet are screwed out just let me know and I will measure it for you.

As far as the threaded sleeves I think if you pick up the legs the feet drop right out with the threaded sleeves, but I may be wrong about that. I think I set it up 5 years ago now.

 

[Angle Detective]

I couldn't see the pics, but it's interesting that the table plays fine and you say the feet would just drop out of the legs if lifted. I guess the wood portion where the sleeve screws into the leg gives enough support to carry the weight of the table without any other support. I'm guessing that a Gold Crown weighs about 750 lbs. That's less than 200 lbs. per leg. and apparently the threads can handle all that weight without the screw and without the nut.

 

[realkingcobra]

I couldn't see the pics, but it's interesting that the table plays fine and you say the feet would just drop out of the legs if lifted. I guess the wood portion where the sleeve screws into the leg gives enough support to carry the weight of the table without any other support. I'm guessing that a Gold Crown weighs about 750 lbs. That's less than 200 lbs. per leg. and apparently the threads can handle all that weight without the screw and without the nut.

You're about 350lbs off on the weight of a GC.

 

[Angle Detective]

You're about 350lbs off on the weight of a GC.

Okay. So nearly 800 views into this thread and being a non-mechanic in the "talk to a mechanic" forum, I now know that each leg of a Gold Crown needs to support 275 lbs. Thanks, everyone!

 

[realkingcobra]

Okay. So nearly 800 views into this thread and being a non-mechanic in the "talk to a mechanic" forum, I now know that each leg of a Gold Crown needs to support 275 lbs. Thanks, everyone!

I offered to answer your questions, all you had to do was call me. I have to much work to do to sit here on AZB and spell out the process so that everyone might learn something new about something most don't care about anyway.

 

[Angle Detective]

I offered to answer your questions, all you had to do was call me. I have to much work to do to sit here on AZB and spell out the process so that everyone might learn something new about something most don't care about anyway.

I appreciate that. You shouldn't be the only one who has to respond. It's not your job. It's actually no one's job, but it surprises me that no one is willing to offer answers to something that is one of the most common things that a table mechanic has to do. I don't expect an answer at this point, because after 800 views it's gotten kinda surreal.

 

[kid]

The nut is to lock the rod in the caster so it doesn't spin in it while leveling, the screw in the bushing serves the same purpose

 

[Angle Detective]

The nut is to lock the rod in the caster so it doesn't spin in it while leveling, the screw in the bushing serves the same purpose

Thank you!

 

[kid]

You're welcome


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[fastone371]

You're about 350lbs off on the weight of a GC.

Doesnt Brunswick show the weight of a GCI to be 1125# or something in a brochure or a spec sheet that shows describes the differences between the different series GC's ??