Professional 8 Ball Rules, Extremely Challenging

How about if you run three balls....you flip a coin to see who shoots next?
See where this is going?....like modern education, nobody fails.

If you want to be a champion, work on YOUR game, not THE game.

Having read many of your posts on this forum and having agreed with a lot of your comments I believe you are a level headed., common sense kind of guy.


However this post and your post 18 above contradict each other.

In 18 you say you agree with open break and you quote take what you make leads to mediocrity.

Here you say ...work on your game. And not the game.

As we all know ..open break is easier...so instead of making the game easier why sont we go back to the way it was and work on your game instead of the game
 
Having read many of your posts on this forum and having agreed with a lot of your comments I believe you are a level headed., common sense kind of guy.


However this post and your post 18 above contradict each other.

In 18 you say you agree with open break and you quote take what you make leads to mediocrity.

Here you say ...work on your game. And not the game.

As we all know ..open break is easier...so instead of making the game easier why sont we go back to the way it was and work on your game instead of the game

"Open break' allows a more skillful decision.

I saw Ronnie Wiseman make 5 low balls on the break in Alpena MI ...'90s.
...he was hooked on the two remaining low balls....he ran out using the high balls.
'Take what you make' would've made him a huge underdog...

...I support the leagues bigtime, I want to see great players come from them like SVB....
...I get asked for calls a lot if I happen to be there....
...and the players often set up 'what would you do here' scenarios for me.

...But please don't bring the rules with them.
I agree with the handicap and level the playing field for recreational players...
...but NOT at the open level....every sport needs champions...they show where everyone can go.
 
"Open break' allows a more skillful decision.

I saw Ronnie Wiseman make 5 low balls on the break in Alpena MI ...'90s.
...he was hooked on the two remaining low balls....he ran out using the high balls.
'Take what you make' would've made him a huge underdog...

...I support the leagues bigtime, I want to see great players come from them like SVB....
...I get asked for calls a lot if I happen to be there....
...and the players often set up 'what would you do here' scenarios for me.

...But please don't bring the rules with them.
I agree with the handicap and level the playing field for recreational players...
...but NOT at the open level....every sport needs champions...they show where everyone can go.

You make some valid points so don't think I'm being argumentative here but a great kick on either one of his remaining balls would make him an even greater champion than taking the easy way out. Just playing devils advocate here :grin-square:

Now I am just an average league player . But I tell you ...sometimes when I make a ball on a closed break and don't have an easy shot at any others in that suit and I come up with a great kick and then continue a run is a whole lot more satisfying than playing open break in Napa and getting an easy break and run.

Maybe its just me but I like the challenge of closed break over open break. I have twice as many break and runs in Napa than I do apa but those apa break and run patches mean a whole lot more to me.
 
You make some valid points so don't think I'm being argumentative here but a great kick on either one of his remaining balls would make him an even greater champion than taking the easy way out. Just playing devils advocate here :grin-square:

Now I am just an average league player . But I tell you ...sometimes when I make a ball on a closed break and don't have an easy shot at any others in that suit and I come up with a great kick and then continue a run is a whole lot more satisfying than playing open break in Napa and getting an easy break and run.

Maybe its just me but I like the challenge of closed break over open break. I have twice as many break and runs in Napa than I do apa but those apa break and run patches mean a whole lot more to me.

Efren, to me, is the greatest kicker....but if he had to kick one ball in every game as a handicap, he can't beat any good player.
We can always make run-outs tougher...slow cloth, dump some sand on the table, turn a fire hose on it...the best players will still win, but where is the beauty in that?

Pool is a wonderful game...it makes you use ALL your faculties...
...those striving to play as well as they can keeps it alive.
 
Efren, to me, is the greatest kicker....but if he had to kick one ball in every game as a handicap, he can't beat any good player.
We can always make run-outs tougher...slow cloth, dump some sand on the table, turn a fire hose on it...the best players will still win, but where is the beauty in that?

Pool is a wonderful game...it makes you use ALL your faculties...
...those striving to play as well as they can keeps it alive.

Just curious....do you like the old 9 ball rules or the break and run fest it has become today. ?
 
Just curious....do you like the old 9 ball rules or the break and run fest it has become today. ?

I like both sets of rules....you saw better shot making with the old push out any time rules....but one foul brought us all those marvellous escapes by Efren...Nick Varner said Efren made me change my game.

I do think that top players will eventually make 9-ball obsolete...and I don't like the makeshift bandages they put on it.

I would like to see the pro game go to ten-ball...without the phony rules.
...everything counts, NO call shots, and a neutral racker.

BTW, you're a pleasure to disagree with...I enjoy your posts.

Yiddish proverb....
"If everybody pulled the same way, the whole world would topple over."
 
This weekend!!!!!
 

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