Pull out all old staples!

PoolTable911

PoolTable911

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This drives me nuts. I was working today at a pool room. I was stripping the bed cloth and found two sets of previous staples under the cloth. It took me a half hour to pull all the staples from the slate liner. That is just plain laziness in my opinion. HACKS!!!! I hate them.

Pat O'Donnell
www.Pool-Table-Services.com
 
PoolTable911 said:
This drives me nuts. I was working today at a pool room. I was stripping the bed cloth and found two sets of previous staples under the cloth. It took me a half hour to pull all the staples from the slate liner. That is just plain laziness in my opinion. HACKS!!!! I hate them.

Pat O'Donnell
www.Pool-Table-Services.com
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lol, I've seen instances where the previous installer just cut the felt in a straight line across the staple line and just left all the staple and the excess felt there and stapled right over it. What a mess, Took me a long time to pull those staples. And the guy who did it used a staple every 1/8 inch or so, most overlapping. There are just too many guys out there who just don't care about the work!
 
PoolTable911 said:
This drives me nuts. I was working today at a pool room. I was stripping the bed cloth and found two sets of previous staples under the cloth. It took me a half hour to pull all the staples from the slate liner. That is just plain laziness in my opinion. HACKS!!!! I hate them.

Pat O'Donnell
www.Pool-Table-Services.com
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Two sets?!? I bought a used table 3 years ago. I paid a local billiard supply to move it and install it. Well... the install was ok...the best you could do I guess with a 4ft carpenters level. They asked me if I wanted the felt put back on, they said it was new...yada yada yada... it was some shag stuff I used until i got my simonis (hell, I wasn't buying it through them!).

I pulled of the shag carpet... and low and behold if not EVERY staple from when the table was bought in the 70's was still in the wood (plus the ones from the install) I am talking 7 or more layers of staples... I should have gotten a picture.... I worked for about 15 minutes witha screw driver..puled out about 10... finally I ordered and upholstery staple remover...took me well over 4 hours and about 10 beers to get the staples out...lol

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Pat, bet you'd like to follow behind me...LMAO
 

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Rangercap said:
Two sets?!? I bought a used table 3 years ago. I paid a local billiard supply to move it and install it. Well... the install was ok...the best you could do I guess with a 4ft carpenters level. They asked me if I wanted the felt put back on, they said it was new...yada yada yada... it was some shag stuff I used until i got my simonis (hell, I wasn't buying it through them!).

I pulled of the shag carpet... and low and behold if not EVERY staple from when the table was bought in the 70's was still in the wood (plus the ones from the install) I am talking 7 or more layers of staples... I should have gotten a picture.... I worked for about 15 minutes witha screw driver..puled out about 10... finally I ordered and upholstery staple remover...took me well over 4 hours and about 10 beers to get the staples out...lol

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LoL...I have a couple good Osbourne staple pullers. I couldn't work without them.
 
If you'll notice, there's no staple stretch shadows on the slate.
 

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And the Simonis 860 Tour Blue...is stretched 3" from side to side....damn tight.

Glen

How'd you like to be the one pulling the staples out of these rails????...@*&@*@&...I did!
 

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realkingcobra said:
Pat, bet you'd like to follow behind me...LMAO
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Your right! I can't wait to learn your glue method. The tables in Pool Rooms get recovered so often it will save a ton of time.
 
Pat, this is the awl that I use to pull staples out with. You can get them at Lowe's or Home Depot, or Sears.
 

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Glen, your work looks nice. But I must tell you that being the old school guy I've come to be, I always tack my table. About 1.5" on center creating a perfectly horizontal pattern around the slate perimeter as if put in by a machine gun. As you've shown, I've always glued a piece of bed cloth over tack heads in the pocket openings never wanting to risk chipping a ball during play. Besides, it just looks better. I'm sure staples are more effecient but, unlike you, I don't make my living servicing tables. Thus, on the rare occassion I take my table down, I just find tacking more appealing.
 
rikdee said:
Glen, your work looks nice. But I must tell you that being the old school guy I've come to be, I always tack my table. About 1.5" on center creating a perfectly horizontal pattern around the slate perimeter as if put in by a machine gun. As you've shown, I've always glued a piece of bed cloth over tack heads in the pocket openings never wanting to risk chipping a ball during play. Besides, it just looks better. I'm sure staples are more effecient but, unlike you, I don't make my living servicing tables. Thus, on the rare occassion I take my table down, I just find tacking more appealing.
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Not meaning to knock anyone else's way of installing the cloth on the slate...to each their own so to speak. But for me, my gluing method eliminates the shadow stretch marks left by staples and tacks, as well as the system I use to install the cloth, keeps the grain of cloth going straight up and down the slate as well as straight in line from side to side. The way I do my pockets hides the staples from having any contact with the balls. And just for information purposes only, slate chipping and cloth cutting in the pockets happens from one of two reasons.

(1) The shelf of the slate is to sharp and needs to be more rounded, and the biggest one of them all, (2) the back of the pocket is to shallow causing the balls to bounce back into the slate edge instead of downward first...a manufacture defect in design as far as I'm concerned.

Glen
 
One more thing to think about, how do you use tacks or staples to hold the cloth on the sides of the slates...when the slate backer is so stapled out that it won't hold them anymore...or pieces of the backer boards are missing? And spray glue is NOT the answer...LOL

I would challenge anyone as to how tight they can install the cloth with staples or tacks as compared to my gluing system...I can always use the extra money...:D

Glen
 
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