Question about Runout Drill System

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I've been practicing the Runout Drill System for a few weeks now. I've gotten past Level 6 several times, but now I'm wondering if I've been doing Level 6 wrong.

According to this document https://billiards.colostate.edu/bd_articles/2020/oct20.pdf, it says that you get one extra ball in hand for Level 6 and Level 8.

However, Dr. Dave's RDS youtube video does not say anything about one extra BIH for Level 6 and Level 8.

Should you get an extra BIH for Levels 6 and 8, in addition to the BIH after the break?

I do find Level 6 with an extra BIH to be easier than Level 5, so perhaps you're not supposed to get an extra BIH for Level 6 and 8.
 
There was discussion about these levels during the original RDS testing. I believe the extra BiH for levels 6 & 8 was ultimately the final rule set.

Simply, if a player doesn’t need the extra BiH for these levels they’ve demonstrated enough proficiency to easily progress to the higher levels.

A family of drills based on running racks

In my July and August columns in Billiards Digest I describe a family of drills that has several features: For any level of student, there is a drill that is both challenging and allows a runout. The drills are similar to normal games. The student will be making a large majority of the...
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Levels 6,7,8 are BIH after the break. They all have 1 extra BIH but it really doesn't say what that is for is the after break your only BIH
 
Zerksies said:
Levels 6,7,8 are BIH after the break. They all have 1 extra BIH but it really doesn't say what that is for is the after break your only BIH
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BIH after the break is free on all levels. Any other BIH mentioned is in addition.
 
Zerksies said:
:oops: Oh Geez, I think I'm starting at level 13
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That would be this, starting with ball in hand after the break but no other BIHs:

13. 9 balls (4 solids, 4 stripes, 8), 8-ball rules, remaining balls in order

So... 4-ball eight ball ghost followed by four balls in rotation. To do this more than half the time is pretty darn good.
 
Bob Jewett said:
That would be this, starting with ball in hand after the break but no other BIHs:

13. 9 balls (4 solids, 4 stripes, 8), 8-ball rules, remaining balls in order

So... 4-ball eight ball ghost followed by four balls in rotation. To do this more than half the time is pretty darn good.
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Just study the layout. Figure the rotation layout first. Then work backwards.
 
Zerksies said:
Just study the layout. Figure the rotation layout first. Then work backwards.
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Sounds like a good plan.

That drill is similar to Allen Hopkins' Q-Skill drill, where the first 10 balls are straight pool and the last 5 are rotation. Mike Page's Fargo game is harder mentally -- any number like 14.1 and then rotation. The mental problem is deciding when to switch to rotation which gets you two points per ball.
 
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