question about stance.

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I am left eye dominant and play left handed(when place my cue on the line of shot and then close one eye, with my left eye open the cue does not shift, but with my right eye open the cue shifts away from the line.)

How can I position my head to use my dominant eye more? right now when I go into my stance my head is tilted to the left, because I am trying to use my dominant eye.

I see pictures of professional's who use their dominant eye and their head is not tilted.

I hope my post is making sense, I do not post often on forums.
 
We aim with both eyes. We shoot with both eyes.
Your head needs to be positioned so that when you are using both eyes, what you perceive to be the straight line extending out from the cue is the same as where the cue is actually pointing.

Perception and reality need to be the same.

Steve
 
mikyor said:
I am left eye dominant and play left handed(when place my cue on the line of shot and then close one eye, with my left eye open the cue does not shift, but with my right eye open the cue shifts away from the line.)

How can I position my head to use my dominant eye more? right now when I go into my stance my head is tilted to the left, because I am trying to use my dominant eye.

I see pictures of professional's who use their dominant eye and their head is not tilted.

I hope my post is making sense, I do not post often on forums.
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How can you tell it's their dominant eye from a picture?....SPF=randyg
 
We line up the cue where we perceive a straight line. It might be under a dominant eye (if you have one); it might be under the chin; or it might be anywhere else. BTW, there are many expert/pro players who play with their head tilted. That, in itself, doesn't mean you can't perceive a straight line. How's the quality of your stroke?:grin:

Scott Lee
www.poolknowledge.com
 
mikyor said:
I am left eye dominant and play left handed(when place my cue on the line of shot and then close one eye, with my left eye open the cue does not shift, but with my right eye open the cue shifts away from the line.)

How can I position my head to use my dominant eye more? right now when I go into my stance my head is tilted to the left, because I am trying to use my dominant eye.

I see pictures of professional's who use their dominant eye and their head is not tilted.

I hope my post is making sense, I do not post often on forums.
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Try standing square to the shot. meaning both leg standing in line then bend down.
Try watching UK snooker player e.g. Stephen Hendry on how they stand and you get what I mean.

Also do not straighten your bridge arm (right). I think this might help.
 
Hi mikyor,

to help u trhu a forum is extremly hard- there are so many books which teachin/showing you how to put up your stance correctly. The biggest problem is: no human is like the other :p
Have a look at Steve Mizerak or even so Raymond Ceulemans- then have a look at Johnny Archer or Jeanette Lee. You see what i mean? 2 guys like a rock and two paper-weights :p.
What is really important that you re *feelin good* if you put up your stance. But if u reached a point, where u re constantly unsure and don t know what is wrong (no matter if just a lil mistake, or even less fundamentals), i strongly recommend u to contact a good instructor- this would be the best way to receive an advice that helps u my friend.

lg
Ingo
 
Scott Lee said:
We line up the cue where we perceive a straight line. It might be under a dominant eye (if you have one); it might be under the chin; or it might be anywhere else. BTW, there are many expert/pro players who play with their head tilted. That, in itself, doesn't mean you can't perceive a straight line. How's the quality of your stroke?:grin:

Scott Lee
www.poolknowledge.com
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thank you for providing an actual answer than the other two posters above. My stroke is good. Who are some expert/pro players that play with their head tilted? I have seen some good local players that play with the head tilt, but I do not know any big names that do.
 
icem3n said:
Try standing square to the shot. meaning both leg standing in line then bend down.
Try watching UK snooker player e.g. Stephen Hendry on how they stand and you get what I mean.

Also do not straighten your bridge arm (right). I think this might help.
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What changes or what is the purpose of not straightening my bridge arm? I do either bend or straight depending on how much room I have on the table under me.
 
What fixed your problem?

Im ineterested to hear how you fixed your problem. I've helped a many new cueist out there who had a similar problem. What was YOUR fix it to the situation.
 
mikyor said:
I am left eye dominant and play left handed(when place my cue on the line of shot and then close one eye, with my left eye open the cue does not shift, but with my right eye open the cue shifts away from the line.)

How can I position my head to use my dominant eye more? right now when I go into my stance my head is tilted to the left, because I am trying to use my dominant eye.

I see pictures of professional's who use their dominant eye and their head is not tilted.

I hope my post is making sense, I do not post often on forums.
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I noticed a couple things in the video...You wear a hat and also it appears like glasses. Both can be used as tools to practice setting up with a untilted head. Use your peripheral vision to notice if the brim of your hat or the top line of your glasses are level with the table...if not...your tilted....Just make sure that your hat and/or glasses are on straight!!!

I am also left I dominant and play left handed.....I play with the cue under my left eye....(FOR ME this gives me the best line of sight) what I do and practice for my routine is to extend imagionary aim line out of the back of the CB....Standing up normally behind the shot, I place my left foot directly on to that line...I take a small step forward with my right foot (off to the right of the line) and a very small (if any) shift step back with my left foot (staying on the line)....The cue is placed onto that imagionary line (making sure that both front and back hand are on the line....From there stroke and go...

I also practice a drill that (MAY) work for you too....I have found that when I percieve the shot best, the cue is directly under my left eye....I found that if I try and place the cue under my chin, the tip may point at the CB, but my back hand ends up left of the aim line and the result is a crooked cue....This would force me to redirect the cue during the final stroke to hit a straight shot...I often would get unwanted left english on straight shots.......FOR ME....I practice setting up on the rail were the cushion and rail form a straight line...I place a peice of chalk on the rail to simulate a CB...I set up to the shot like above....If I set up correctly, and then without moving my head close my weak eye...I will not be able to see that line under the cue with my open left eye...If close my dominant eye the line will be visable with my right eye....FOR ME...this is a great drill to insure I am setting up with a (straight) cue....Since you are left handed/left eye dominant....this may also work for you....

Ultimatley the set up routine is responsible for getting the cue in the proper position....without the set up routine...its a crap shoot and I usually end up with a "crooked" cue.

I also notice that when you set up...it appears your left eye is "behind" your right eye....(I do/did the same thing....with your left eye behind your right it skews your perception of the shot....I try to "square" up my head a bit on the shot...I don't get all the way to square......but I have notced "For me" that the closer I get to square...the better perception and vison for the shot I have...

Food for thought...
 
PistolPat said:
Im ineterested to hear how you fixed your problem. I've helped a many new cueist out there who had a similar problem. What was YOUR fix it to the situation.
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hmm, I guess I opened my body a little more, I put my body more square to the table.

From watching my video, my cue and arm are pointing in the right direction, but my body and head are pointed the other way. I guess that is why my head is tilted in a strange position to compensate for my odd stance.

I was using the bill of my hat to see if I was still tilting my head, and it was staying straight, which is good.
 
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