Question about the upcoming SBE

Stylez777

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I've never been to one before and I'm bringing a buddy along. We both were in the market for a new cue. I actually talked to couple custom cue guys but few people told me I should wait and check out what is at the SBE.

So I am curious for those who have been to the event before are there pretty good deals to be had there? (is haggling frowned upon?) What is the better "buying" day? (like is Sunday the best day, more apt to get a deal being the last day and trying to move product) any info at all as to what my expectations should be I'd appreciate it. Like to know what I am walking into
 
I've never been to one before and I'm bringing a buddy along. We both were in the market for a new cue. I actually talked to couple custom cue guys but few people told me I should wait and check out what is at the SBE.

So I am curious for those who have been to the event before are there pretty good deals to be had there? (is haggling frowned upon?) What is the better "buying" day? (like is Sunday the best day, more apt to get a deal being the last day and trying to move product) any info at all as to what my expectations should be I'd appreciate it. Like to know what I am walking into

You're walking into cue buyers paradise!

Good luck!

Ray
 
I've never been to one before and I'm bringing a buddy along. We both were in the market for a new cue. I actually talked to couple custom cue guys but few people told me I should wait and check out what is at the SBE.

So I am curious for those who have been to the event before are there pretty good deals to be had there? (is haggling frowned upon?) What is the better "buying" day? (like is Sunday the best day, more apt to get a deal being the last day and trying to move product) any info at all as to what my expectations should be I'd appreciate it. Like to know what I am walking into


There's an interesting perspective and one that provokes thought.
You see, I've never been to the Expo as a spectator, but rather as someone who worked the other side of the table; a seller and doing cue repair for 3-4 days straight, 12 hrs a day.
It's been about 5 yrs since I've been to my last one and while I had a nice time, all things considered, I'm not all that anxious to go back. This thread reminded me of why.

A booth costs about what now, $1,000-1,500?
So as a builder (& seller) of custom cues, I'd have a substantial cash out-lay just to put my cues in front of the buying public. Also consider that the booth doesn't come with a free room and meals.
I do agree that it can be a good place to buy because you can choose from hundreds of builders and if they have a table in their booth or there's one nearby, you can test-hit cues `til your arm wears out.
So.....is 'haggling frowned upon?' I guess it depends on which side of the table you're on.
 
you can choose from hundreds of builders and if they have a table in their booth or there's one nearby, you can test-hit cues `til your arm wears out.
So.....is 'haggling frowned upon?' I guess it depends on which side of the table you're on.

Those "nearby" tables are paid for by the person whose booth they're in.

For the shoppers at the expo, please try to have some common courtesy. If the booth you're wanting to buy from doesn't have a table for you to test hit, don't go to the guy 3 booths down and ask to use his for your test hit, it is rude and you're not just one person, you're the 1000th person to do so. If that is the cue you really want, pay for a rack of balls in a coin op table and test hit it, don't intrude on the person that spent $1500 on a booth, travel expenses, hotel, food, and pool table (for their customer) expenses.
 
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You are very welcome to come by Booth L13 downstairs at the Expo and hit balls on my rented table with a selection of custom cues. If one interests you maybe we can discuss it further. Anyway don't buy a cue without testing it. If they won't let you chalk it, there IS an underlying reason.

You are welcome to visit my website too.

Tom Gedris, Triple Cross Cues:cool:
http://www.triplecrosscues.com
 
As a seller I say it depends on how you approach things. I don't mind when people want to deal, if it's friendly banter then we can usually come to an arrangement. But if they come across with the "I can get a better deal down the row" spiel then I send them on their way.

Better yet I will walk them to the competitor's booth and tell the competitor that they told me they could get a better deal with the competitor and so I was bringing them over for that deal. 9 times out of ten they were playing us both against each other.

I don't play that way. If you as a prospective customer want to establish a good conversation then we can do business and I am in a much better mood to come down in price. If you get aggressive then don't bother.

And please don't ever tell a vendor it will be cheaper on Sunday. It might but if you say that then most vendors would rather burn the product in front of you rather than sell it to you.

Remember that these are people who traveled a long distance and worked long hours to set up their booth and are working long hours standing there to present their products to you, treat them with some dignity and you will find them to be pretty hospitable.

That said competition is fierce so spend time doing your homework and scouting out what you want. Make sure you understand value vs. price. The lowest price isn't always the best value over time.

When you are reasonably sure about what you want then you can talk price. Have a reasonable offer in mind that you are definitely willing to pay and be a buyer. Don't be a tire kicker. Be upfront with the seller and tell them your bottom line and let them think about it. Be prepared to compromise.

Don't lowball. Especially with custom stuff. These cue makers put a lot of blood and sweat into getting cues ready for this show. It's a big part of their income. Of course they aren't a charity case but have some class when making an offer. If you do this with respect and manners you will make friends even if you don't get the price you want. Down the line in years to come that will pay off.

I have helped out former customers who brought their friends to me year after year. Always remember if you plan on going back to the show you want the vendors to welcome you not groan when they see you coming.

That's the best advice I can give you.

Be sure to stop by and see our line up of cases for your friend's new cue. I am sure you are going to want to have the best protection for it :-)
 
Also, the best buying day is the one where you are standing in front of the cue or case you want and you say yes.

I have seen it dozens of times that people hesitate and when they come back later the cue or case is gone. I say, sorry you should have snapped it off when you had in your hands.
 
Firstly thank you for the responses.

I didn't mean to offend anyone or disrespect any seller in anyway by my post. I have been to over 40 Computer type shows where you have 40-60 vendors in a hall and it's like a fire sale! What you buy for say $500 at booth A you find at booth C for $450. Lot of crazy things go on at these shows and usually the last day of the show they are discounting things more then other days because they want to move product, they had a bad show sales wise etc etc. Plus I can only go down for one day and was trying to decide if Thursday or Sunday was the better day to go.

I totally understand the cost and effort put in by the vendors to get their product out to these shows (I have done 5 Bike shows at the Jacob Javits center in NYC) wasn't trying to offend anyone either by asking about haggling. I am in retail and I go through it everyday, some people approach it with etiquette others not so much. I just didn't want to offend someone at the show if there is a cue I liked and asked the seller if he/she could work on the price with me within reason. I know me 8 out of 10 times a customer comes into my bike shop and asks me like that I work with them.

I hope to stop by every booth at the show and see everything there is for sale and test hit a ton of cues because I never got to test hit a cue before I bought one. Look forward to meeting a bunch of the sellers and hopefully I can find something I like (my buddy also).
 
Firstly thank you for the responses.

I didn't mean to offend anyone or disrespect any seller in anyway by my post. I have been to over 40 Computer type shows where you have 40-60 vendors in a hall and it's like a fire sale! What you buy for say $500 at booth A you find at booth C for $450. Lot of crazy things go on at these shows and usually the last day of the show they are discounting things more then other days because they want to move product, they had a bad show sales wise etc etc. Plus I can only go down for one day and was trying to decide if Thursday or Sunday was the better day to go.

I totally understand the cost and effort put in by the vendors to get their product out to these shows (I have done 5 Bike shows at the Jacob Javits center in NYC) wasn't trying to offend anyone either by asking about haggling. I am in retail and I go through it everyday, some people approach it with etiquette others not so much. I just didn't want to offend someone at the show if there is a cue I liked and asked the seller if he/she could work on the price with me within reason. I know me 8 out of 10 times a customer comes into my bike shop and asks me like that I work with them.

I hope to stop by every booth at the show and see everything there is for sale and test hit a ton of cues because I never got to test hit a cue before I bought one. Look forward to meeting a bunch of the sellers and hopefully I can find something I like (my buddy also).

Cool - I forgot to mention that we will have a table set up and visitors can not only test hit with our cues they can play as much as they like.

We are here :-)

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Is haggling ok, darn right!! Test hit a cue...darn right!!

When you find a cue you like go for your best deal and buy the cue, if you wait til later it may not be there.

And don't concern yourself what it costs a vender to be at the show, he's in business and it cost's money to be in business...go for the cue and deal that is right for you.

You will have a great time
 
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