CJ, I was wondering how you think you would have done against Shane with you in your prime and Shanes game now? 9 ball and 10 ball. This is a tough one to answer but give me who wins and why Thanks in avance
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Yes, that says it all. It's a no brainer
CJ in his prime was just as strong as Shane is now
While I did not see ALL of CJs games, it seems that Shane is better overall. If you pick any top player and spotlight their top sets, anyone can win, often they string 4-5-6-7 games, run out the set at times, etc...
Over a year of tournaments, gambling and so on, Shane will be up.
Over a year of tournaments, gambling and so on, Shane will be up.
hmmm.....begs the question of which era had a stronger field? CJ in his prime era or Shane's era right now? Assuming SVB hasn't peaked either.
developing a new found interest, not really in the playing, but in promoting
This is a tough question because there's many variables. Shane perfected the 10 Ball break, so if I hadn't modelled him and successfully duplicated [the 10 Ball Break} he would have had a big advantage in that game.
Chances are I would have picked it up because my break was as effective as Bustemante, Archer, and Strickland. They may not break as good as Shane, but close enough for it to be less of an advantage.
Shane, like Johnny A. is more dedicated to practicing than I was. My game depended on gambling action, and rarely practiced. That's why my playing fundamentals, systems and techniques had to be my focus because I only practiced a few hours a week.
Champion players average several hours a day, so playing tournaments I would be considered the underdog against Shane, Archer, Bustamente or Reyes. However, I've got winning records against a few of them and Bustemante is the only one that is ahead of me gambling (he beat me once and we broke even the other time, tied in tournaments).
I'm pretty sure in a gambling match Shane would have wanted a time limit set beforehand. My forte was being able to put myself in a "Zone" and play for many hours with my speed getting better over 20 hours.
So, I believe in the first 8 hours Shane would be the slight favorite, between 8 and 16 hours it would be very close one way or the other, and after 16 hours I would become the favorite.
My "mental side" concentration was what most considered my biggest advantage. I just wasn't geared to play well "out of the box" and really enjoyed playing for MANY hours straight. I wish I still could, but they invented this thing called "time limits" which didn't exist in my days. :wink:
Like other people would say, I've had my periods and cycles where I played about as well as the game would allow. My downfall was being in business and not focusing 100% on pool, so to win day in and day out against Shane would have been very challenging indeed.....for anyone that's not eating, drinking, breathing the Game of Pool.
I have a great deal of respect for Shane, and also for Lassiter, Mosconi, Taylor, Jersey Red, Buddy Hall, The Miz, Reyes, Bustemante, Sigel, Strickland, Archer, Ellin, Varner, Rempe, David Howard, Lebron, Omaha John, Surfer Rod, Jr. Weldon, Dalton L., Hatch, KeithM, Dalton, Crane, etc. and recently for Dennis O., Alex, Dechaine, Corey, Hunter L., Brandon S., Ralph S., Darren A. ETC.... and the youngster Landon Shuffet after seeing him in Tunica play Earl Stickland.
You see at this level, it's not us playing the Game, but the Game playing through us and who ever wants it the Most, the Game rewards. It's just very difficult to keep up the pace of being #1.
I was ask what my goal was in a national article and I said "To be number ONE," then the sportwriter ask me "what will you do then?" and I replied "probably quit and go on to something else," which I did and now I'm developing a new found interest, not really in playing, but in promoting the Game. I wonder what I'll learn this time? 'The Game is the Teacher' www.cjwiley.com
This is a tough question because there's many variables. Shane perfected the 10 Ball break, so if I hadn't modelled him and successfully duplicated [the 10 Ball Break} he would have had a big advantage in that game.
Chances are I would have picked it up because my break was as effective as Bustemante, Archer, and Strickland. They may not break as good as Shane, but close enough for it to be less of an advantage.
Shane, like Johnny A. is more dedicated to practicing than I was. My game depended on gambling action, and rarely practiced. That's why my playing fundamentals, systems and techniques had to be my focus because I only practiced a few hours a week.
Champion players average several hours a day, so playing tournaments I would be considered the underdog against Shane, Archer, Bustamente or Reyes. However, I've got winning records against a few of them and Bustemante is the only one that is ahead of me gambling (he beat me once and we broke even the other time, tied in tournaments).
I'm pretty sure in a gambling match Shane would have wanted a time limit set beforehand. My forte was being able to put myself in a "Zone" and play for many hours with my speed getting better over 20 hours.
So, I believe in the first 8 hours Shane would be the slight favorite, between 8 and 16 hours it would be very close one way or the other, and after 16 hours I would become the favorite.
My "mental side" concentration was what most considered my biggest advantage. I just wasn't geared to play well "out of the box" and really enjoyed playing for MANY hours straight. I wish I still could, but they invented this thing called "time limits" which didn't exist in my days. :wink:
Like other people would say, I've had my periods and cycles where I played about as well as the game would allow. My downfall was being in business and not focusing 100% on pool, so to win day in and day out against Shane would have been very challenging indeed.....for anyone that's not eating, drinking, breathing the Game of Pool.
I have a great deal of respect for Shane, and also for Lassiter, Mosconi, Taylor, Jersey Red, Buddy Hall, The Miz, Reyes, Bustemante, Sigel, Strickland, Archer, Ellin, Varner, Rempe, David Howard, Lebron, Omaha John, Surfer Rod, Jr. Weldon, Dalton L., Hatch, KeithM, Dalton, Crane, etc. and recently for Dennis O., Alex, Dechaine, Corey, Hunter L., Brandon S., Ralph S., Darren A. ETC.... and the youngster Landon Shuffet after seeing him in Tunica play Earl Stickland.
You see at this level, it's not us playing the Game, but the Game playing through us and who ever wants it the Most, the Game rewards. It's just very difficult to keep up the pace of being #1.
I was ask what my goal was in a national article and I said "To be number ONE," then the sportwriter ask me "what will you do then?" and I replied "probably quit and go on to something else," which I did and now I'm developing a new found interest, not really in playing, but in promoting the Game. I wonder what I'll learn this time? 'The Game is the Teacher' www.cjwiley.com
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That will be challenging for everyone to keep straight
oops, you're right, Thanks :smile:....Brandon Shuff and Landon Shuffet....I have a feeling they may be playing in the finals of the US OPEN in 3 years.
That will be challenging for everyone to keep straight.
oops, you're right, Thanks :smile:....Brandon Shuff and Landon Shuffet....I have a feeling they may be playing in the finals of the US OPEN in 3 years.
That will be challenging for everyone to keep straight.
DrOnePocket
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Cmon CJ,
You are being modest man. You would have beat him for the cash :wink:
You are being modest man. You would have beat him for the cash :wink:
Tar Match
Do I hear a TAR Match in the making after the Mosconi Cup? I know it is not realistic, CJ doesn't play much anymore.
Do I hear a TAR Match in the making after the Mosconi Cup? I know it is not realistic, CJ doesn't play much anymore.