Question for Tbeaux and RKC regarding Procut

bayoublaster400

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Just wondering Tbeaux and RKC. What measurements, if any, are different from the ones in the thread "What's in a Pocket. The Answers" using procut pockets? I know the corner pockets are 4.5" and the sides are 5", but is the angle of the cushions the same for procut as well as the face angle measurements?
I realize that the width of the throat has a lot to do with the angle you would end up with if your end result is 4.5" corner pockets, so I would imagine that if a table doesn't have the correct throat measurement then you may end up with more than or less 142 degree measurement for your cushions at the corners that is considered standard.
RKC. Do you know off the top of your head what are the general throat measurements for the most popular tables such as Diamond, GC's, Olhousen Pro's, etc.?

Thanks again guys.
PS. RKC. Where if anywhere in the state of Louisiana have you installed Diamonds in public establishments? I live near Lafayette, La. and have yet to run across one. Been dying to play on one.
 
Just wondering Tbeaux and RKC. What measurements, if any, are different from the ones in the thread "What's in a Pocket. The Answers" using procut pockets? I know the corner pockets are 4.5" and the sides are 5", but is the angle of the cushions the same for procut as well as the face angle measurements?


I'm not a table mech so I'd go with what RKC says. He talks alittle about the PRO Cut on post #50 of this thread...http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=145007&page=4. seems like 142 degree cut with 4 9/16" mouth.



I realize that the width of the throat has a lot to do with the angle you would end up with if your end result is 4.5" corner pockets, so I would imagine that if a table doesn't have the correct throat measurement then you may end up with more than or less 142 degree measurement for your cushions at the corners that is considered standard.


Actually this is a bit backward. The angle cut at a particular mouth opening will determine what the throat is. My measurements were for general reference for table owners to judge 1) just how fair or tite their pockets are 2) a way for problem areas can be identified


RKC. Do you know off the top of your head what are the general throat measurements for the most popular tables such as Diamond, GC's, Olhousen Pro's, etc.?

Thanks again guys.
PS. RKC. Where if anywhere in the state of Louisiana have you installed Diamonds in public establishments? I live near Lafayette, La. and have yet to run across one. Been dying to play on one.

I'll let RKC answer. I've heard "Bayou Billiards" here in Baton Rouge have Diamonds but I haven't been in yet to know for sure. I'd like to play on one too.
 
Just wondering Tbeaux and RKC. What measurements, if any, are different from the ones in the thread "What's in a Pocket. The Answers" using procut pockets? I know the corner pockets are 4.5" and the sides are 5", but is the angle of the cushions the same for procut as well as the face angle measurements?
I realize that the width of the throat has a lot to do with the angle you would end up with if your end result is 4.5" corner pockets, so I would imagine that if a table doesn't have the correct throat measurement then you may end up with more than or less 142 degree measurement for your cushions at the corners that is considered standard.
RKC. Do you know off the top of your head what are the general throat measurements for the most popular tables such as Diamond, GC's, Olhousen Pro's, etc.?

Thanks again guys.
PS. RKC. Where if anywhere in the state of Louisiana have you installed Diamonds in public establishments? I live near Lafayette, La. and have yet to run across one. Been dying to play on one.

All tables with a 4 1/2" corner pocket opening with a 141 degree miter angle have the same pocket throat opening, no matter what kind of table it is. Then keeping the 4 1/2" pocket opening, if you change the miter from 141 degrees to say 140 degrees, the mouth is going to be the same, but the throat is going to be wider, which makes it easier to pocket balls, because the balls bank deeper into the pocket coming off the facings.

I know I've delivered Diamond tables in your area but it's just a blur as to where:D

Glen
 
Thanks guys. Absolutely correct. I was looking at it backwards. I forgot that the pocket opening will remain constant whether the pocket angles changes or not thus increasing or decreasing the throat.
The reason I am asking these questions is that my best friend got him a Olhausen pro 8' a while back and of course it has the pocket rattle (which both he and I already did research on here on the site) and we know about the 3/16" neoprene facing fix. I myself was just curious how his Olhausen measured up to procut pocket measurements in regards to face angle, pocket angle, and such and whether or not making any changes to his table to get it to procut standards would actually help out in addition to just putting on the 3/16" neoprene facings.
When I head over to his house this weekend, I'll do some checking on the angles and such and do some comparisons and see how it stacks up at least to BCA specs.
On a side note. I myself was going to buy a Olhausen Pro 8.5' until I played on his 8' (we play at least 3 times p/week @ 2-3 hours per session). I'd rather just get something else and not have to go through the fix to get what I want from the very beginning! That's a hint RKC! Know where I could get a used Diamond (8.5 -9') in great shape) ? Don't think I could afford a new one at this point.
Thanks to the both of you again for your time and patience and Tbeaux, if you find those Diamonds in the Big Redstick let me know. I'd apreciate that also.
 
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