Quite possibly the most undeserved win in a final in the history of pool

Lucky Gold Medal?

With everything that has been said previously here concerning the Qatar World 9 Ball
Tournament I don't see any hope of the "9 ball" game being part of the Olympics unless
rules can be established to eliminate the "circus" style luck as was the case in the Qatar
World 9 Ball Tournament.
 
Completely agree. It's certainly no more flawed than the other games, even the call shot ones.

Two things spring to mind. One: you can't remove all luck from the game. Why should you be punished for getting lucky when attempting a pot, missing and yet fluking a safe, but then rewarded for getting lucky when making the pot, screwing up your position but fluking position on the other side of the ball? Two: you don't have an inalienable right to have a shot on when your opponent misses. I don't know why people think you do.

And somehow I don't think we'd be seeing nearly as many "nine ball is a flawed game" posts had SVB won in the final.

9 ball is too easy anyway in it's present format. Need shot clock and pocket call. Maybe even if hill hill a 2 game win spread necessary.
 
I understand that rolls are part of the game, but this was absolutely sickening. Shane really deserved to win.

This is the nature of 9 ball and the Texas Express rules. 9 ball is a joke of a game. I love pool and hardly ever watch rotation games but I did watch this and I was not at all surprised that the rolls determined the outcome, it happens a lot. But Shane did hook his self on the 7 ball which I think cost him the match. 2 things determine the winner in 9 ball, the break and the rolls. What a game. If you want the player who plays the best you better play something other than 9 ball.
 
Exactly right! The rolls weren't even for sure, but Shane had some bad mistakes that cost him. He clearly had more than enough good looks at the table to win this, but didn't quite pull it off.

.... quite possibly the worst thread title in AZB history.

Stu
When I first read your posts, right after the final, I found you harsh and unsympathetic to Shane's plight. I went back and watched the final starting from the score tied 9-9. From that score onward Shane did have numerous chances to win and didn't capitalize on them. Over coming adversity and winning are what legendary competitions are made from. Shane just fell a little short on what could have been a remarkable victory. Maybe next time.

Shane is not the first to be tested this way. One of my favorite all time players Francisco Bustamante seemed to be cursed. Francisco was all so close to winning championships with "World" attached to them many times, only to have some happenstance occur and deny him. Francisco finally got his and Shane is young enough to eventually win the title with word "World" attached to it also.
 
this thread is in poor taste

Ko is the champ and well deserved imo

9 ball is what it is.....it's not flawed

it has a quick and fast and luck element designed to make it appealing for obvious reasons, it also evolved pool by having players learn the break shot

the greatest pool matches i've seen over the past couple decades were nine ball

Such thread reflect badly on the OP himself. Sad :D

Remember in past 10-20, there were lots of buzz about 10 ball , they start World 10 ball championship then died suddenly and resurrected this year by Manny Pacquiao. Before the W10B this year the biggest 10 ball tourney in world was the All Japan which not many probably heard of LOL
Point is 10ball could not dislodge 9ball in terms of popularity
So yes you are right 9 ball is still most popular tourney format. :D

Yep there is and Ko beat Shane in that also


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Actually, this is first time they played 9ball. They met previously in three 10 ball matches all of which Ko won and three 8ball matches which Ko lost including the CSI 8ball tourney semifinal (which Ralf famously had to catch a plane :D )
Ko won the big ones- the Guiness World Series of Pool (not a World Championship even though it had word "World" in it) which paid $40K and this W9B which paid less $30K

IMHO, their Head 2 Head (Ko v SVB) as follows:
2010 World 8 ball Group match 4-8
2011 Guiness World Series of Pool 10 ball Final 10-4
2013 US Open 8 ball quarterfinal 6-8
2014 CSI Challenge 10ball Group match 21-17
2014 CSI 10 ball Invitational Group match 9-7
2014 CSI 8 ball Invitational Semifinal 6-9
2015 W9B Final 13-11

:D
 
this thread is in poor taste

Ko is the champ and well deserved imo

9 ball is what it is.....it's not flawed

it has a quick and fast and luck element designed to make it appealing for obvious reasons, it also evolved pool by having players learn the break shot

the greatest pool matches i've seen over the past couple decades were nine ball

Quick and fast? That was not what i was watching. A plague on the houses of all slow players, Ko included. I didn't think he was particularly lucky but he's definitely tedious to watch.
 
A plague on the houses of all slow players, Ko included.

Yeah, screw players like Souquet, Archer, Fong Pang Chao and whatever other world beater through the years. Pool is all about speed, not about balls going in to the pockets. You, sir, have figured out what pool is all about.
 
Were there any accu-stats calculated for the match. That would be a good way to measure the affects of luck.
 
what does KO have to do to get respect from the SVB trolls?
SVB is awesome, amazing player

KO beat him in his backyard to 21 at his game betting massive on the side
then beat him in the short race to 9
he wins world 10 ball and world 9 ball in same year
world number 1

yes he terrible he cant beat shane
c'mon eh
 
I think the finals of the last world doubles were worse. Hill hill game, and they miss a simple 7 or 8 ball, but hook the other group, then there is another miss but yet another lucky leave with no shot. Time to play 10 ball with at least called game ball. Leave the lucky wins to APA.
 
Yeah, screw players like Souquet, Archer, Fong Pang Chao and whatever other world beater through the years. Pool is all about speed, not about balls going in to the pockets. You, sir, have figured out what pool is all about.

Actually, I've figured out what sport is all about: entertainment.

Nothing entertaining about pool, chief.
 
I think the finals of the last world doubles were worse. Hill hill game, and they miss a simple 7 or 8 ball, but hook the other group, then there is another miss but yet another lucky leave with no shot. Time to play 10 ball with at least called game ball. Leave the lucky wins to APA.

Yeah, but it was quite good if you're English. :thumbup:
 
Actually, I've figured out what sport is all about: entertainment.

Nothing entertaining about pool, chief.

Then quit pool and try something else. Simple as that.

My entertainment might be some other guy's absolute boredom and the other way around. Hence we have so many so called "minor" sports. Defining "entertainment" in every sport is quite subjective.
 
Why is it sickening? They both deserve the win. Although Ko did get a few lucky rolls, Shane did not capitalize very well on the easy kicks he got in return. It could easily have went the other way and Shane may very well have been in Ko's place right now.
 
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