R5 with an implex joint?

SC02GTP

SC02GTP

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Hello

I was tooling around on Ebay yesterday and ran across a listing that was interesting. It is a Schon R5 with the stitch rings and sharp points with an implex joint. My questions are:
1. Is this a rare option or something that was done at a later time?
2. If it is a rare option, how does this affect value?

I have never seen this type of joint on a Schon and did not know they even offered it. Any and all information is appreciated.

Thanks
Tom
 
Implex joints are usually found on the earlier "S" series. Schon's S serise only lasted about a year in '81. S series Schons are failrly collectable cues. Though it could be an "R" series with a special ordered joint. A link to the listing would help further.

Here is a link to The Palmer Collector for more information:
http://www.palmercollector.com/Schon/SchonSseries.html

Hope this helps.

Josh
 
ferrules and joint coloration

I was looking at the pictures posted in the listing and the ferrules and joint are the same color. More of a yellow than white like old micarta(sp). The butt cap is still white. Is this a clue to the age?

I forget what I need to do to post the link here. I know I do a ctrl C, but, not sure what I need to do to paste it here after I copy it.
 
Schon link

Thanks for that link to look at the "S" series. I can say without a doubt that this cue is later than any of those. It has the windows in the butt-sleeve ala R5.
 
Got it, thanks for the link LP!

This appears to be an R5 with a special ordered Micarta joint. I bet she plays real nice!

Josh
 
R5

The Schon in my photo has the typical implex joint Schon produced with the S series or mine which is slightly earlier. They are all white in color from all I have seen. The one on Ebay is either a special order, a repair, or changed at a later date. If it is factory, it would be a great pickup. If not, you take your chances.
 

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great pics

Thanks for those great pictures of the implex joint. I thought about bidding on the cue, but, too many questions around it. Looks like she will sell at a decent price though.
 
High bidder<<<<<<

Ok guys, I need advice on this one. The high bidder is now me. The person(s) bidding higher than I was retracted their bids. I NEED to know if I should retract my bids as well. I wouldn't mind getting the cue for decent money if the implex joint is original. I can't dump a ton of money into this cue if it is not original. What would you do?
 
My advise would be that if you can't stand the heat, stay out of the kitchen.
EBay is not a game. Nor is the seller's auction a toy.
If you ain't got the stones for the action, don't play.
 
Where did that come from?

Why the slam? I am in great standings both here on AZ and on Ebay. You would see this if had taken the time to look at feedback. I like a good auction so long as what is being auctioned off is authentic. With this type of joint on this Schon, just wanted to be as sure as I can be that I am not throwing away good money for bad. So, I am asking the experts for good adviced. This has little to do with my nutz and everything to do with my bank account.
 
I couldn't tell you if the Micarta joint is original. But I can tell you, if I had the free chash I would bid until it was mine. I really like the cue, and I bet it plays really well. If you get it for under $500, it shouldn't matter if it is original.

You have to iron out what it is you are looking to do with the cue. Are you gonna play with it? Are you going to try and flip it? That, in itself should tell you how high to go.

Josh
 
No slam, just the truth.
You made a bid and now you've got cold feet.
Why did you even bid if you didn't have every intention of following through?
Did you question the seller before placing your bid?

I'm not interested in your eBay F/B or your bank acct.
How you conduct yourself in this world is all that matters.
Your original question was asked & answered. It sounds now like you're looking for someone to hold your hand.
If $300 is going to stress your bank acct., you might want to consider that you're in the wrong game.
 
hhmmmmm....

You must not understand my situation. I became the high bidder because the person I was bidding against pulled out of the auction as stated above. 300.00 isn't going to crush me and I never said that was my max bid. I just had an uneasy feeling When the other bidder bowed out. This leads me to believe that they know something I don't or it was an honest mistake on the other bidder's behalf.

I like the cue well enough to give it a try. If I don't like the feel/hit, I want to be able to get out from under it and get my money back out of it. The auction has little to do with any of this except for the winning price.

FYI, I have questioned the owner and he is far from and expert. This was the reason I posted here in the first place. To see if the cue is authentic or to be reasonably sure. I only require honest information or opinions on the originality of the cue from the experts. I only want to make an informed buying decision.
 
SC02GTP said:
This has little to do with my nutz and everything to do with my bank account.
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Ask the tough questions BEFORE you commit to buy ...

From the photos in eBay, I can't tell if it's sharp or rounded point Schon, and I can't tell if it's piloted or flat faced joint.
 
Buster

Thank you for that. I like the cue as well and have been looking for something with a little different feel/hit than a SS joint. I love the R series no matter what kind of joint, these have been favorites of mine since they came out back in the 80's. This cue would fill two needs, owning an R series and have a different feel.

I just don't want to get too deep into the cue and loose money on it if I don't like the playability. Condition and originality are hudge with older cues, any cues. This is not unlike vintage autos...you are going to pay far more for an original 70's HEMI Cuda' that you would for the same car that was converted from a 318 from the factory. I want to own the HEMI, not the reproduction.

I don't plan to flip this cue. I buy a cue and play with it a few months, sell it, and try something different. I figure if I play with enough cues, I will find the one that has that sweet spot and feel. Every cue I have tried I have liked, just looking for that keeper.
 
Here is a direct quote from the seller of the cue for what its worth............

"I want to be open and honest as possible. I will offer money back refund if not happy."
 
SC02GTP said:
Thank you for that. I like the cue as well and have been looking for something with a little different feel/hit than a SS joint. I love the R series no matter what kind of joint, these have been favorites of mine since they came out back in the 80's. This cue would fill two needs, owning an R series and have a different feel.

I just don't want to get too deep into the cue and loose money on it if I don't like the playability. Condition and originality are hudge with older cues, any cues. This is not unlike vintage autos...you are going to pay far more for an original 70's HEMI Cuda' that you would for the same car that was converted from a 318 from the factory. I want to own the HEMI, not the reproduction.

I don't plan to flip this cue. I buy a cue and play with it a few months, sell it, and try something different. I figure if I play with enough cues, I will find the one that has that sweet spot and feel. Every cue I have tried I have liked, just looking for that keeper.
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This all sounds good to me. I think my cap would be about the $450 mark because of the unknowns. The Micarta will definitely have a different feel when compaired to an SS joint. You might want to contact a member here by the screen name of "Big J", he is pretty good with these R series Schons and could possibley provide more info.

If you do go through with the auction and win the cue, keep me in mind as a possible buyer when you are ready to sell. I will have my cue funds back in order in a few months.

Good luch with the direction you choose.

Josh
 
good advice

Thanks Josh and Lee. I plan on seeing this through. The seller seems honest enough and offers a money back guarantee. I also asked for better pictures to be sent to my email of the joint face and points.

Josh, I will keep you in mind if I win and decide to sell. Maybe a trade of some sort as I like to try different cues. I hope this Schon plays between a McDermott and a Southwest. I am guessing closer to the McDermott end of the spectrum with that type of joint.

Thanks
Tom
 
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