i dont have a set of them yet!!! I sent the check out today for the mint never played set, so I cant use them, a guy in Germany has several sets. I will try and hook you up. they are the nutzzzzzzz. I wish I had about 4 -5 sets, one mint for my collection and then a few sets to use and wear out. In time i'll hook you up, just remind me now and then, so I dont forget. I'm gonna get my hands on many sets as possible. Since $$$ is tight some good stuff is hitting the market now that wasnt avaliable 2 years ago.