Rail break... where do you hit the cue ball?

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When using the rail break... I have seen allot of guys use bottom
6:00 eg. Pagulayan/ Bustementa (sp.?).

But how do they control the cueball to the center of the table. Everytime I use draw on my break my cue ball comes back to the head of the table.

i know that I am suppose to hit the 1 ball head on but where should hit the cue ball...? Any suggestions?
 
cause their ball jumps on the table...the back spin and the force going forward counter each other. I notice that when i use back spin and the ball doesn;'t jump it draws back usually scratching in the corner pocket. If your gonna back spin don't over do it.
 
big misconception

Busta does not use bottom on the break, nor do any pros when power breaking. When the CB jumps back after impact and stops in the middle of the table, it is not because of draw. The ball jumps back because of the collisions between the CB and the front three balls. The reason that it stops in the middle of the table is because of follow, not draw. I have heard many top players/commentators get this dead wrong. I can show you some setups to prove to you that this is true.
 
I agree with Nerd! As you apply top spin on the CB and it collides with the spot ball it will bounce up and back towards you. The top spin is what keeps the ball in the center of the table. Why do you think that a lot of breaks that don't jump, when the CB collides wit the spot ball and starts to roll back to the break point but the top spin takes affect and rolles it back to the rack!

Zim
 
Most pro's that i have seen aim low on the cue ball.When the cue goes through the cue ball the tip hit's center ball. Ideally they don't want any spin on the cue ball.Unless they are using a cut break and drawing it to the side rail.

Kent Mc.
 
Pooljunkie is exactly right. It doesn't matter where you aim the cue tip, all top pros hit the center of the cue ball to have virtually no english on it when it strikes the head ball. Thus, if you get lift after contact, when the cue ball lands it goes no where unless struck by another ball.
 
CUE BALL

the reason the cue ball jumps from the table and "squats" when it comes back down is not because of top spin. its because your cue is elevated (even if its just slightly elevated) and your hitting down on the cue ball causing it to jump through the air and its in the air when it strikes the 1 ball. then it bounces off the one ball causing it to "jump" off the table and squat down when it hits the table again. i know because i have always used this break and it was explained to me by a pro that gave me some "cheap" lessons.
 
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The cue ball jumps back because of a physics theory called the Conservation of Momentum. Mass x Velocity before the collision equals the Mass x Velocity after the collision. (OK, I'm a geek, I have a minor in Physics. But it's amazing how much it's helped my pool game.) Cue ball has stop action on it when it hits the stack, but because the stack has 9 or 15 balls, that's 9 or 15 times the amount of mass relative to the cue ball. That's why the cue ball jumps back. After it jumps back, it stops because it has stop spin, or no spin. Make sense?
 
Cardinal_Syn said:
cause their ball jumps on the table...the back spin and the force going forward counter each other. I notice that when i use back spin and the ball doesn;'t jump it draws back usually scratching in the corner pocket. If your gonna back spin don't over do it.
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You're losing power this way. If the cb is backspinning, it's slowing down on the table.
Like mentioned here, Bustamante aims low but hits near center when striking the cb.
 
Ever try to knock the coin off the object ball at the carnival? If you hit the cue ball any way other than the way BHAMKID said to hit it you will never knock it off. The cue ball must be airborn to knock the coin off. Having been barred from this game at many carnivals and fairs I know of what I speak. A weak breaker can practice this break and develop a much stronger break.
 
Joseph Cues said:
You're losing power this way. If the cb is backspinning, it's slowing down on the table.
Like mentioned here, Bustamante aims low but hits near center when striking the cb.
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i don't put back spin though....i don't over do it..i was thought just to hit it below center, not center but just below. Works for me. Someone sugessted using top spin, i 've tried it and all it does to me is having the q-ball in the opposite end rail and the one ball in the other. So i hit it with a bit of back spin and usually it's almost center.
 
If you are aiming for a full hit on the one it will be kicked back slightly depending on the speed of the hit because of the reactions between the head 3 balls, not because it's airborne. If it jumps back because it's airborne and not because of the other 8 balls, then you could remove the last 8 balls and recreate with just the one, which you can't. To see what happens when a rack is hit with no spin, rack the 9 balls, aim two frozen balls at the intended point of contact on the one ball on your breaking line about 1.5 to 2 feet away from the one and hit the cueball into those two balls. Assuming that you hit it above a medium speed, the ball hitting the one will have no spin on it. You will then see that the ball that hits the one travels towards the head of the table after contacting the one when hit with no spin. If you blast the balls it will travel fast enough towards the head of the table to where you need to use a touch of top spin to stop it. If you don't hit them quite so hard the cueball may settle in the middle of the table by itself. There is no reason to use draw unless if you are planning a full hit on the one. Just trying to clear up the misconception that power breakers use draw to get the CB to the middle of the table, which is incorrect.
 
pool nerd

have you ever actually played pool or is this all something you read in a book???
 
Hey Kid, you can tell Nerd never has and never will break a light over a pool table with his break, LOL....$Bill
 
two balls frozen wouldn't produce a no spin shot over an almost 6foot distance unless you hit it extremely hard, but I will try it just for ha ha's
 
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