Rating Systems - What do you like?

FLICKit said:
I see your point. They are the same/similar in ways. Yet as you say, they are different.

Ya, so there (and I have read the thread, btw) :D In a handicapped match (in any sport/game) the two players are playing different games. In a non-handicapped match the players are playing exactly the same game. The tiering only affects who plays who, and not the game itself. I don't like playing 9 Ball when my opponent is playing 7-8-9 Ball, it changes things too much.

If you think pool is difficult to handicap, be glad you don't play squash. Tiering is the only way to keep things competitive for most players. A 'B' player will absolutely crush a 'C' player, and no modifications to the rules of a game or match will change the outcome (OK, don't get ridiculous on me). The only way is to keep 'C' players apart from 'B's. Of course there is a gray area, the 'strong C' vs 'weak B' kinda thing. The point is, don't change the game itself, it will not work anyway.

Dave, just my opinions
 
Another opinion

If there is a problem with the 'sandbagging"..try this...
"A" level open tourneys have any amount as a prize fund ...everyone plays with no handicap
"B" level tourneys have a different prize fund such as $500 max added
"C" level tourneys have a lessor fund such as $ 300 max added

I like to run this type and if the "sandbagger" wants to just win a small amount you can't do much about it but he will not be able to get into the BIG tourneys and STEAL the $$$....and if he cashes too much at his current level he just jumps up to the next level!!!
 
There is a guy (Bruce Prince) locally, who worked in a pool hall in Vegas that does a great job with tournaments. He runs a Calcutta. Depending on how much people go for determines what A,B or C group they belong in. Works very well for regional stuff.

For national stuff, maybe someone can come up with something similar to Accustats as mentioned in this forum. Then determine cut off points for refining A,B and C groups. The only thing is that I really like as little recording as possible as people play. The simpler it is the better, I think.

Keep in mind that with the internet, it is now easy to capture national information. So capturing win/loss ratios and runs only along with tournament performance and league performance becomes easy to track. Leave it to the software to manage this stuff such as players who play outside of their region can be an added variable to the strength of that region.
 
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