Rauenzahn cue orders!

[cubswin]

Aside from the longer points, I think you're right.

I'll admit, I was tempted to buy the J.R. cue nick listed recently (the Szamboti copy)...but it just didn't work out.

From the sounds of it, Mr. Rauenzahn makes one hell of a cue....and could do well for himself on his own merits, without making exact copies of somebody's design.

On the other hand, there ARE plenty of cuemakers out there who do it...so maybe he's just making the call to go where the money is. Not a bad business move....but takes time away from him doing the cues HE has created by himself.

Either way....it looks like he does fantastic work....and I'll probably buy one from him sometime down the road.

Sure there are plenty of them. So why would you want to join into the fray, instead of showing what you can create. Making a place for your own two feet. It doesn't bug me when it happens because a customer wants a cue, begs for a cue, and you are a new cue maker who needs the business. But Jerry is a established cue maker, and last couple of years there has been more interest in his cues rightfully so. Now to just go out and copy wholesale can't be a good move imho. Just my .02, not worth much but its mine *lol*.

 

[runscott]

Sure there are plenty of them. So why would you want to join into the fray, instead of showing what you can create. Making a place for your own two feet. It doesn't bug me when it happens because a customer wants a cue, begs for a cue, and you are a new cue maker who needs the business. But Jerry is a established cue maker, and last couple of years there has been more interest in his cues rightfully so. Now to just go out and copy wholesale can't be a good move imho. Just my .02, not worth much but its mine *lol*.

Here's one Jerry showed me this summer:

 

[8-ball Rat]

Sure there are plenty of them. So why would you want to join into the fray, instead of showing what you can create. Making a place for your own two feet. It doesn't bug me when it happens because a customer wants a cue, begs for a cue, and you are a new cue maker who needs the business. But Jerry is a established cue maker, and last couple of years there has been more interest in his cues rightfully so. Now to just go out and copy wholesale can't be a good move imho. Just my .02, not worth much but its mine *lol*.

Absolutely valid point...and I don't, at all, disagree with ya.

All I'm saying is that it would appear he's trying to maximize his market. Not only by designing his own cues....but building those that folks want. They look like a Szam...they perhaps play like a Szam....but they cost 4800-ish LESS than a Szam. For those out there who want all outward appearance to point one direction, but have their WALLETS point in another, purchasing a "Copy" cue gets the best of both worlds for them. I know I couldn't afford a true Bushka or Szamboti....but I sure LOVE how they look.....

I'm not saying that copying a design is right or wrong......I have my own opinions about it....and it leans further toward the "iffy" side....but there IS a market for 'em....and J.R.'s got a means to make that happen for the customers who choose to go that route.

 

[nick serdula]

Cues only made to order

If you order it he will build it.Like those pictures he can do it. Like 4-6-and 8 pointed cues he does almost any design under the sun he just never thought to promote his work!. He also can do custom tapper orders!
The only catch is it is all hand work and there will be no computerized wood cutting! I would think it might be a good time to take advantage of a shorter wait on a cue than you might encounter in the future!
Thanks
Nick

 

[JG-in-KY]

IMHO as long as he doesn't pass them off as Szamboti's and Balabushka's I don't see the harm. Is it just me or don't a lot of the great cuemakers use a lot of the classic designs?

 

[8-ball Rat]

IMHO as long as he doesn't pass them off as Szamboti's and Balabushka's I don't see the harm. Is it just me or don't a lot of the great cuemakers use a lot of the classic designs?

Yep...they sure do. If it ain't broke.........

While I'm sure there are other possibilities, design-wise, out there....seems as though most cuemakers know that folks are a fan of the "classics." 4 pointers, I think, will always be a big seller....and there are only so many ways you can dress one up, and stick to the "classic" look.

Now....putting a mic against every 1.5 inches, from ferrule to buttcap, is a touch more than sticking to the classics.....that's more of a Xerox than a tribute.

 

[gnaroz]

As the owner of one of Jerry's cue's I can honestly say that it does play lights out. I am very happy with it and I would buy another one, no doubt.

 

[dave sutton]

ppl amaze me

how can ppl rag on cue makers and say they are theifs. somehow somewhere everyone copies something. who is the first person to cut in points use veneers or use a piloted joint? jerry makes cues to order. he doesnt have time to make 12 cues a year to sell at valley forge. he makes what is ordered. no way passed off as something else ever. all cues are signed or -R-. he makes me bushke style cues all the time. ppl use titlist blanks are they stealing. G.B. couldnt even cut in points. titlist or pre made forearms. he bought all his shafts pre cut.


dont eat at wendys bc mcdnalds made burgers first...

 

[Hierovision]

I don't know. I can see some prime examples of obviously unique work when I look at Josey cues... they've never been done before and he does plenty of business. I can think of some others as well like Hercek and Gilbert who seem to have very unique designs making up the bulk of their work these days.

If an accomplished cuemaker is running out of imagination I don't have a problem with them copying someone else as long as it's not passed off as that other person's work. Sometimes it's hard when nearly everything else has been done.

 

[dave sutton]

I don't know. I can see some prime examples of obviously unique work when I look at Josey cues... they've never been done before and he does plenty of business. I can think of some others as well like Hercek and Gilbert who seem to have very unique designs making up the bulk of their work these days.

If an accomplished cuemaker is running out of imagination I don't have a problem with them copying someone else as long as it's not passed off as that other person's work. Sometimes it's hard when nearly everything else has been done.

ive deff seen gilbert szamboti copies and j.h. uses szamboti stitchs in every single cue j.h. style of cue is szabboti to the "t" except for some specs like buttcap and legnth of buttsleeve ect

 

[jkmarshall_cues]

Nick,

Glad to see you are doing this. I thank Jerry -R- for the outstanding work he creates. I have sent him 8 titlist and Brunswick blanks from various years and they all look awesome. His fit and finish are clean and clear. He can masterfully modify, repair historical cues, and bless his creative side build his own patterns.

Look at his half joints. Who has been doing those the past 10 years? I personally love the hit of a flat faced ivory joint with a stainless steel radial pin. I also love the traditional look, thick silver/nickel rings sharp points that are dead nuts even, crisp veneers of color combinations used 100 years ago that everyone has tried to copy. IMO Tascarella does this same look. Anyone who buys a Rauenzahn tribute cue will certainly get their money's worth, not to mention how great Jerry's shafts fit and play too!

I have three being built by Jerry right now and I'm proud to play with them. I'm 6' 2" and need a 30" butt which Jerry makes easily with great balance.

I'm glad to see someone building tribute cues and putting thier own personal touches on them. You get good looking traditional style with current upgrades available to cue builder's of today, not to mention the 30+ years of mastering the art of cue building. That's value in itself!!!

Thanks Jerry -R-

John

 

[dave sutton]

thats funny bc jerry has been making cues longer than alot of cuemakers out there. not many people know that. his customers always come back for seconds


new jerry of mine in cue gallery with name in it. check it out