Really Nice Wayne Holmes Cue For Trade/Sale...

8-ball Rat

I'll eat you alive.....
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Hi all,

I have decided to trade/sell my first custom cue ever. After some soul searching and a realization that I care FAR more for piloted joint cues, I'm putting this one out there to see if there's any interest. It's a great cue, and plays great....but since my swap to piloted joints, this cue just doesn't fit my tastes.

I will say this up front. The cue has my initials in the buttsleeve. I'm VERY MUCH aware that not everyone out there fits the M.T.R. bill...so I'm allowing a good amount off the price of the cue to have the new owner be able to get the backend redone and refinished.

This cue was recently sent back to Mr. Holmes for a polishing, new tips, a new light textured leather wrap. All pieces are straight and solid, together and apart.

Here's some info on it:

Butt - 15.5 ounces, 29.6" long from buttcap to joint collar. 4 ebony points into BEM with white/blue/black veneers. Blue marblized rings at B, C, D, and E. Flat faced wood to wood joint with steel collar and black phenolic subcollar. Black lightly textured leather wrap. Ebony sleeve (with MTR in light brown/tan). Solid ivory buttcap. There appears to be a very thin scratch in the buttcap from the sleeve to the bumper. I looked it over real well, and it does not go into the meat of the ivory, from what I can tell. Recently cleaned, polished, and rewrapped by Mr. Holmes. "Wayne" written on the forearm in gold ink (barely visible..to prevent taking away from the beauty of the cue).

Shaft 1 - 3.5 ounces, 12.75/12.8mm diameter with mammoth ivory ferrule and Triangle tip. 29.6" long. Straight and sound. A few sugar marks on the shaft, but has no bearing on the playability. Black phenolic collar with blue marblized ring to match the rest.

Shaft 2 - 3.5 ounces, 12.75/12.8mm diameter with mammoth ivory ferrule and Triangle tip. 29.6" long. Straight and sound. Black phenolic collar with blue marblized ring to match B, C, D, and E.

Both shafts have been cleaned well, and the cue is ready to play.

SOLD, SOLD, SOLD!!!

Here are some pics of the cue:

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8-ball Rat said:
realization that I care FAR more for piloted joint cues, I'm putting this one out there to see if there's any interest. It's a great cue, and plays great....but since my swap to piloted joints, this cue just doesn't fit my tastes.

You too huh buddy. I'm in the same boat.

Best of luck with the sale.

Regards,
Koop
 
Koop said:
You too huh buddy. I'm in the same boat.

Best of luck with the sale.

Regards,
Koop
Thanks, Koop. Yep....looks like we're sitting side by side in that boat!! I've tried to keep the options open...but I keep coming back to the same thing. I'm done trying to fight it!! :) :)
 
andywho said:
so tempting. i don't have anything to trade. gl with the trade/sale
Follow the temptation!!! :)

Not opposed to a straight up sale, sir...so if you're tempted, we can talk. I've been known to cut a real nice deal from time to time!! :) ;)
 
Forgot to mention....

Cue balances 18.25" above the end of the buttcap when assembled. Roughly 1.5" above the leather wrap. It's balanced very well. Forward, but not overly so.

Thanks for the interest thusfar. A couple nice offers, and I will seriously consider each of them.

Mark
 
Sorry for the offtopic, but could anyone explain the concept of the piloted joint vs this one in a few words?

also, free bump ;)
 
Olive said:
Sorry for the offtopic, but could anyone explain the concept of the piloted joint vs this one in a few words?

also, free bump ;)
Sure.

Piloted joints are recessed in the forearm section of the joint, and the shaft has a piloted insert that enters into the recessed portion on the joint.

This Holmes cue is a flat faced joint...meaning the joint and shaft meet up together, flush.

If that's not what you were asking...how about this:

Piloted joints...to me...feel a bit "harder" or "stiff" in hit...especially with stainless steel. Same applies (for me) with piloted phenolic joints. Piloted ivory does hit softer, and is more similar to the flat faced style in feel.

Did that answer your question, or did I just muddy up the waters even more??!! :)
 
hoosier_cues said:
Great looking cue Mark. Glad to see you are back.
It's good to be back, sir. I missed it around here. If all goes well, my wife and I will have our baby girl within the next 5 days...and then I'm on the road again for a bit.

Come April/May time frame, I'll be back for good, and will hover around here like I always have.

Glad to hear you're back to "normal," boss. Thanks for the bump.

Mark
 
Hi Marko!!

My guess is that for a flat-faced joint, this cue probably has a very sweet hit!

IMO, one of the best hits is produced by a flat faced, wood-to-wood joint with a SS thin-wall collar and big pin.

Wait! This cue has that!! :p

What's your ballpark??

-von
 
VonRhett said:
Hi Marko!!

My guess is that for a flat-faced joint, this cue probably has a very sweet hit!

IMO, one of the best hits is produced by a flat faced, wood-to-wood joint with a SS thin-wall collar and big pin.

Wait! This cue has that!! :p

What's your ballpark??

-von
For you, Von..... :) :) ;)

PM is on the way, sir.....
 
SOLD!!! :)

Wadda ya know?? Been gone for awhile....but I still got the touch!! ;) ;)
 
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