Request for CJ Wiley. TOI Calibration?

[ChopStick]

What I have been working on is a set of standard shots to calibrate TOI. Something along the lines of Colin Colenzos potting test or Joe Tuckers Aiming workout. Only I don't intend for it to be a full blown aiming workout. Just a set of shots on a WEI type diagram that I can go through in a few minutes to zero my sights for the day.

What I have found is that as I am getting in stroke, my TOI is getting smaller. Also I have a drift from day to day due to lack of uniform focus. I start hitting the cue ball a tiny bit off from the day before. CJ, I am sure you learned in golf that when errors creep into your swing, the golfer will unconsciously make compensating moves. For me these are usually due to alignment errors. I know, how can you screw up a center to center alignment? Well, I do and it is only a tiny amount. What happens is I notice my stroke changing to compensate. When I check it more closely, the railroad tracks along the edges of the cueball and object ball are a little off. It is only 1/16th to an 1/8th but that is more than enough to throw me off.

I begin each session with the TIPS kicks which are coming along nicely. I would like to have a set of shots to do immediately after that. Then I would be locked in for the rest of the session.

I have not played any matches but my practice sessions are beginning to attract rail birds. I suppose that is a good sign.

 

[obrien714]

ill chime in

On the dvd CJ shows 3 shots with the CTC and TOI.He states the further out the angle is the more TOI to apply. Watch the video. You can pretty much see his 3 examples. Set em up an shoot them. Next move the the CTE angles and apply the TOI adding more for the more angle to the shot. I spent maybe 30 minutes on this. I then threw all 15 balls out and used what i learned.

Maybe you arent totaly focussed on the spot you are hitting on the cue ball. Take a little extra time and really focus on that spot on the cue ball. Line up your shot make your practice stroke and when you are ready to pull the trigger watch your tip hit that spot. As Cj explains, once your lined to the CTC or CTE the object ball is just in the way of the cue balls path. The target is the cue ball.

One thing i find is during my practice routine i always mentally tell myself to accelerate. If the acceleration through the cue ball isnt present and you are letting up on your stroke the TOI will not work. I fond when i miss i know exactly i let up and didnt accelerate through the ball.

I hope these tips help

I find the more i play i use 90 percent of the time shot 1 of the ctc and Shot 1 of the cte Cj sets up on the video.

Good luck.

 

[West Point 1987]

I use four shots (really just two, but going both ways it's four).

CB on spot, OB on spot, cutting left and right into the corner pockets.

OB about 6 inches off the rail, one diamond short of the side pocket, CB 6 inches off the foot rail, center diamond, cut the ball up the long rail into the pocket. Reverse everything cutting the other direction up the other rail.

Make all shots minimum three times in a row and you should be good to go in calibration of alignment, velocity and TOI. Miss once, start over. It's what I do to test the table conditions and my eyes, works for me...but I'd like to hear CJ's recommendation on the best shots to calibrate with. :thumbup:

 

[West Point 1987]

What I have found is that as I am getting in stroke, my TOI is getting smaller. Also I have a drift from day to day due to lack of uniform focus. I start hitting the cue ball a tiny bit off from the day before. CJ, I am sure you learned in golf that when errors creep into your swing, the golfer will unconsciously make compensating moves. For me these are usually due to alignment errors. I know, how can you screw up a center to center alignment? Well, I do and it is only a tiny amount. What happens is I notice my stroke changing to compensate. When I check it more closely, the railroad tracks along the edges of the cueball and object ball are a little off. It is only 1/16th to an 1/8th but that is more than enough to throw me off.

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I've noticed that for me, TOI seems almost imperceptible...it's my "new center", it looks like about 1/8th of a tip, maybe a shade more on thicker hits. There are times, especially when I'm in stroke and using BHE to spin balls on some shots that I actually wonder if I haven't abandoned TOI. Then I take a closer look and see that yes, I'm still using it, it's just so calibrated into my shooting that I'm not that conscious of it. The whole "aim thick to hit thin with TOI" is behind me, I'm aiming to hit center pocket now (or whatever part I need to hit) the whole thick to hit thin adjustment is so internalized that it looks like my old aiming point....everything is calibrated to allow the TOI effect to take. On 1/4 ball hits and thicker, if CB still has inside spin after collision, you're probably using too much TOI. When I do have alignment errors, it's almost always due to foot position. Keeping my forward foot closer to parallel to the shot line has made my foot position much more consistent and contributed to me not having as much alignment error...it's the first thing I check when I see my shot line go off from what I thought I perceived.

 

[CJ Wiley]

"Cuban Rotation," or sometimes it's called "Mexican Rotation,"

What I have been working on is a set of standard shots to calibrate TOI. Something along the lines of Colin Colenzos potting test or Joe Tuckers Aiming workout. Only I don't intend for it to be a full blown aiming workout. Just a set of shots on a WEI type diagram that I can go through in a few minutes to zero my sights for the day.

What I have found is that as I am getting in stroke, my TOI is getting smaller. Also I have a drift from day to day due to lack of uniform focus. I start hitting the cue ball a tiny bit off from the day before. CJ, I am sure you learned in golf that when errors creep into your swing, the golfer will unconsciously make compensating moves. For me these are usually due to alignment errors. I know, how can you screw up a center to center alignment? Well, I do and it is only a tiny amount. What happens is I notice my stroke changing to compensate. When I check it more closely, the railroad tracks along the edges of the cueball and object ball are a little off. It is only 1/16th to an 1/8th but that is more than enough to throw me off.

I begin each session with the TIPS kicks which are coming along nicely. I would like to have a set of shots to do immediately after that. Then I would be locked in for the rest of the session.

I have not played any matches but my practice sessions are beginning to attract rail birds. I suppose that is a good sign.

I always liked setting up different type angles with the object ball on the head spot, then moving the object ball down a diamond towards the end rail.

Also, I'd recommend putting all the balls on the rails, varying from the first diamond up to the third diamond......if you've ever seen "Cuban Rotation," or sometimes it's called "Mexican Rotation," they play the game with ALL the balls on the rails and run them in rotation.....I'm talking about doing a variation of this game, just putting all the lowest numbered balls closest to the corner pockets, but not necessarily in any order.

Using TOI hitting ALL rail shots for 20 minutes will teach you some valuable shots that would difficult to learn any other way. I believe you may start to see the "Center/Edge" shot relationships even better than before. 'The Game will be your Teacher'

Play Well ....

 

[ENGLISH!]

Sorry. I should have read to the end first.

 

[CJ Wiley]

"Begin with the end in Mind".

Sorry. I should have read to end first.

"Begin with the end in Mind".....'The Game is the Teacher'

 

[ENGLISH!]

"Begin with the end in Mind".....'The Game is the Teacher'

Yeah... but was the end in mind there a drink of water or an a _ _ washing?

 

[CJ Wiley]

at last you're simply "favoring" one side of center.....as your "new" center.

I've noticed that for me, TOI seems almost imperceptible...it's my "new center", it looks like about 1/8th of a tip, maybe a shade more on thicker hits. There are times, especially when I'm in stroke and using BHE to spin balls on some shots that I actually wonder if I haven't abandoned TOI. Then I take a closer look and see that yes, I'm still using it, it's just so calibrated into my shooting that I'm not that conscious of it. The whole "aim thick to hit thin with TOI" is behind me, I'm aiming to hit center pocket now (or whatever part I need to hit) the whole thick to hit thin adjustment is so internalized that it looks like my old aiming point....everything is calibrated to allow the TOI effect to take. On 1/4 ball hits and thicker, if CB still has inside spin after collision, you're probably using too much TOI. When I do have alignment errors, it's almost always due to foot position. Keeping my forward foot closer to parallel to the shot line has made my foot position much more consistent and contributed to me not having as much alignment error...it's the first thing I check when I see my shot line go off from what I thought I perceived.

That's my experience with TOI as well.....the better I got with it the less I needed to get the same effect, to the point that no one could tell I was doing it....visibly (by watching my stroke) anyway, you can tell by the cue ball's reaction.

It's like golf, you start out slicing the ball and the better you get the more it turns to a "fade".....and the "hook" over time turns into a "draw" as your game improves.

The Touch of Inside experience will be similar, at first you use a noticeable amount and as soon as you start hitting the cue ball more precisely you will use less and less.....at last you're simply "favoring" one side of center.....as your "new" center.