Restore BRW color?

Ssonerai

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This is for BRW BBC table rails, so i posted it in the Table Tech section.

However regarding finish, cuemakers might have more experience.
Head rail is bleached out from sun.
What is the best method or product to restore color, to match the other rails?

Thanks!
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Humm, it almost looks like the bottom rail, the darker rail, is BRW and the other is walnut. Is it possible that there was a rail swapped out over the years? I think I would just experiment with stain and try to match the odd light colored rail to the rest of the rails. I'm no expert by any stretch, but I don't know if there is anything you can do with sun bleached wood other than remove a bunch of material, and I don't think that is a good idea. I would think it would take stain though.

One other option for you, since I know how skilled your are, is to buy some Bolivian Rosewood and replace the rail caps on all the rails? It doesn't have to be Bolivian, I think there are other beautiful Rosewoods out there that are still available.
 
It's BRW.
Material is not unfamiliar. & of course many more common dahlbergias. (rosewoods)
What's cool is that the area in the shop where these were stored for a couple years smells like it. :)

One end of the table got bleached out including the mahogany on the frame, and the dye in the inlays as noted in my post on working toward restoring it all. From decades in front of wide window while the other end & sides were more shadowed. I see it on restoration jobs esp inlaid floors. Thing is, those can be sanded back to color wood. Hoping not to sand much of this.

Here's the factory description. This model, (and some others) BRW rail caps were the only option. Will try to get better photos later.

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buy some Bolivian Rosewood and replace the rail caps on all the rails? It doesn't have to be Bolivian, I think there are other beautiful Rosewoods out there that are still available.

Lawn - thanks for the encouragement. At this point in the process (50% done, only 90% left to go....) I appreciate it. There's actually a hundred ft or so of 8/4 Pau Ferro ("bolivian" "rosewood") in the loft. If it becomes necessary to make new rails for structural reasons, that might be the go-to option. Thanks for suggesting it. 8/4 is nice because it can be resawn to get book-matched caps each side & end to end. But the original material sure is nice if it can be saved and does not require too much in the way of rail extensions.

OK, I'm inspired. gonna go take a swipe at the old rail with some penofin and see what happens.....

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Well greyghost has some traction. :)

I tend to start moving parts a little before there's time to work on them. Just to get a rough idea of where energies will need to be concentrated.
In this case i was trying to avoid the thought of making rails. & hoping the repairs would not be too onerous, either.

Now actually spent the evening doing some actual inspection and things are not that good. :(
The wood is probably a rosewood, as per BBC spec. Notice the fine black/smoky grain lines & general aspect of the grain. However, it is most likely not classic BRW. Also seems even thinner than shown in the catalog. (FWIW, quite a bit harder/denser than walnut)

As greyghost observed, (though it does not seem to be stained), it could possibly have been "dye enhanced". I could not wash out a dark sample with lacquer thinner & scotchbright stripping pad, not would a rag pick up anything. It did make the color a little less dense, but that would be true of natural wood as well. Does not seem to be much more than wax on it. Though it would not have been uncommon to do a dilute wash coat of shellac for seal and shine before waxing.

My focus with the color Q was to figure out whether the original rails could be cleaned up & darkened if there was not too much damage. The way things are looking, not liking the answer a lot at this point. I'll stew on it for a couple days and take it back with the restoration post in the table tech forum. Thanks for bearing with me.

Overall view: from the front - unmolested rail, bleached out rail with penofin & "Tried & True" oil tests, actual BRW wood and shavings, rail that was attempted to wash out with lacquer thinner and scotchbright stripping pad. 8/4 lumber is cocobola (a true rosewood) for comparison.

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Notice how thin the "hardwood" is over the poplar core.

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There's plenty of wood on top to see if taking some shavings with a cabinet scraper can get rid of anything oxidized, and putting some BLO or walnut oil on top to test will liven it up to see how it would take a more durable finish.
 
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