Retiring
- Thread starter Dak21st
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Hello everybody,
I think our discussion got a little off topic. First, by "junky cue", I meant a lower valued cue or a less demanded cue; I cannot, or will not, trade a cue that cost me $1800 cash for a cue that might bring $600 to $700 cash. I realize that there are many good "hitting" cues, and many of them might seem "overpriced"; but look at the cash in your wallet and tell me what makes a $100 bill worth more than $1 bill. Better yet, what makes diamonds worth more than water? The answer to that is: demand, scarcity, and marginal utility; most people would rather own a cue that is worth more, period. The cue market is microcosm of the aggregate market. Whether you agree with it or not, it controls the world...
Next, I was out of line identifying the "junky" cue makers. In all actuallity, I would rather own a lower-end custom cue than a production cue. Well, in most cases. Also, not being a cue maker myself, the "junky" cue makers obviously make better cues than I could. Furthermore, when the current high-end makers started out I don't believe their cues were worth more than the "junky" cues are worth now- maybe all of the "junky" cue owners are sitting on future gold mines.
Finally, I wish everybody a fun and safe Presidents' day weekend. And remember, while you are all out enjoying a rack of pool to reflect on the few great Presidents and the many individuals who devoted their lives to this great country. But, lets also not forget the power of Economics.
Take care,
-ShaneS
I think our discussion got a little off topic. First, by "junky cue", I meant a lower valued cue or a less demanded cue; I cannot, or will not, trade a cue that cost me $1800 cash for a cue that might bring $600 to $700 cash. I realize that there are many good "hitting" cues, and many of them might seem "overpriced"; but look at the cash in your wallet and tell me what makes a $100 bill worth more than $1 bill. Better yet, what makes diamonds worth more than water? The answer to that is: demand, scarcity, and marginal utility; most people would rather own a cue that is worth more, period. The cue market is microcosm of the aggregate market. Whether you agree with it or not, it controls the world...
Next, I was out of line identifying the "junky" cue makers. In all actuallity, I would rather own a lower-end custom cue than a production cue. Well, in most cases. Also, not being a cue maker myself, the "junky" cue makers obviously make better cues than I could. Furthermore, when the current high-end makers started out I don't believe their cues were worth more than the "junky" cues are worth now- maybe all of the "junky" cue owners are sitting on future gold mines.
Finally, I wish everybody a fun and safe Presidents' day weekend. And remember, while you are all out enjoying a rack of pool to reflect on the few great Presidents and the many individuals who devoted their lives to this great country. But, lets also not forget the power of Economics.
Take care,
-ShaneS
ShaneS said:Hello everybody,
I think our discussion got a little off topic. First, by "junky cue", I meant a lower valued cue or a less demanded cue; I cannot, or will not, trade a cue that cost me $1800 cash for a cue that might bring $600 to $700 cash. I realize that there are many good "hitting" cues, and many of them might seem "overpriced"; but look at the cash in your wallet and tell me what makes a $100 bill worth more than $1 bill. Better yet, what makes diamonds worth more than water? The answer to that is: demand, scarcity, and marginal utility; most people would rather own a cue that is worth more, period. The cue market is microcosm of the aggregate market. Whether you agree with it or not, it controls the world...
Next, I was out of line identifying the "junky" cue makers. In all actuallity, I would rather own a lower-end custom cue than a production cue. Well, in most cases. Also, not being a cue maker myself, the "junky" cue makers obviously make better cues than I could. Furthermore, when the current high-end makers started out I don't believe their cues were worth more than the "junky" cues are worth now- maybe all of the "junky" cue owners are sitting on future gold mines.
Finally, I wish everybody a fun and safe Presidents' day weekend. And remember, while you are all out enjoying a rack of pool to reflect on the few great Presidents and the many individuals who devoted their lives to this great country. But, lets also not forget the power of Economics.
Take care,
-ShaneS
Right on!!! I would also like to add that knowing Shane personally I feel that junky comment was more of a joke than anything else. He likes to drum up interesting conversation on this forum from time to time.
Being a pool player that doesn't work all the time I have had cues in every different price range. There can be a be a better hit and confidence that comes with owning/playing with higher end cues. But, if your game is good enough you can still run out with a Lucasi or whatever. Don't feel bad if you can't afford a higher end custom cue. Pool isn't just about how nice your stick is. Enjoying the game and having fun is more important IMHO.
And remember that most of us started in this game with humble beginnings.
-Andy
This reminds me of a time back in 1988 when my friend Danny Tibbitts was still not that well known. A local top player was at a pro tournament trying to sell a brand new cue for Danny. It was 4 points with veneers and maybe some minor inlay work with two shafts. He was asking $400 for it. Another local player says, "Who does Danny think he is? You can buy a Schon for that."ShaneS said:Hello everybody,
Furthermore, when the current high-end makers started out I don't believe their cues were worth more than the "junky" cues are worth now- maybe all of the "junky" cue owners are sitting on future gold mines.
Take care,
-ShaneS
I wish I had spent the $400 that night.
Chris
www.hightowercues.com
www.internationalcuemakers.com
cueman said:
I can remember buying old "junky" sneaky petes to use as break cues. That is how they were sold to us, 60 bucks cheaper than the old mcdermott black butt break cues (d series?? sold at the same time). The sneakies that are now almost twenty years old, mostly beat up bring about 4-500 today and are widely considered fantastic cues. TS of course. My point is everyone started somewhere and must build a following. BlueGrass is another highly sought after cue that when they were sold locally didn't bring that much initially. At least that was the case where I lived. Before the internet some cues had big followings in small area's of the world, now with the internet cue makers you may never of known are the most sought after. Would I have ever of heard of Searing, Hereck, Tad without the internet. Probably not. Joss, Scruggs, more than likely Fry yes I would have because they were brought in to my area by a dealer who liked cue makers from that area.
Only highly sought after cues we saw around here were Kersenbrocks and Southwests.
cueman said:
Chris, what about all those players in the mid-70s who were scrapping their Bushkas and Szams for 'dem new Meuccis ??????
Your story also brings me to a point. None of us really have 20/20 vision to know what the future will hold for certain cuemakers, but my bet's on some of those 'junky Gilberts' being pretty sporty down the line. LOL
Sean
cueaddicts said:
I can see by your website that you have bet money on those Gilberts being pretty sporty - and I think you made a good bet!!
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Hope all works out for you Dak. Cues sure are a touchy subject. I deal with a few cue makers, not the higher end, but in the middle and from what I can see, a high percentage of the game is in your head. If having a high dollar cue will make your game better, great. I have friend who can grab a cue from someone not knowing what it is or off the wall and in a few minutes string racks together. I sold a guy a cue that swears he can know position the ball much better then he could with his old Meucci? A person can play a high percentage game with just about any cue if they stick with it i'd say? who knows...good luck
Hope all works out for you Dak. Cues sure are a touchy subject. I deal with a few cue makers, not the higher end, but in the middle and from what I can see, a high percentage of the game is in your head. If having a high dollar cue will make your game better, great. I have friend who can grab a cue from someone not knowing what it is or off the wall and in a few minutes string racks together. I sold a guy a cue that swears he can know position the ball much better then he could with his old Meucci? A person can play a high percentage game with just about any cue if they stick with it i'd say? who knows...good luck
Voodoo Daddy
One Pocket 101
Dak21st said:
Good luck my friend, see you in Valley Forge.
