Ring material do's and don'ts

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I have two questions about materials used for joints and rings. Can you successfully install metal rings or will they expand at a different rate than wood and not stay flush. Also what are your thoughts on using turquoise or other stone type products for ring work?
 
The metallic rings don't change a lot in size its the material around it. So if you are going to use metallic rings its best back it with a stable fiber, like phenolic. Wood expands and contracts with moisture changes and you will notice the variation the most if put it along side of a metal ring. Now having said that stabilized woods can work good as well.
 
Canadian cue said:
The metallic rings don't change a lot in size its the material around it. So if you are going to use metallic rings its best back it with a stable fiber, like phenolic. Wood expands and contracts with moisture changes and you will notice the variation the most if put it along side of a metal ring. Now having said that stabilized woods can work good as well.
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So what your are saying is the sandwich the metal ring in between phenolic material for the best results as it will not expand or contract like wood might?
 
SpotOn said:
So what your are saying is the sandwich the metal ring in between phenolic material for the best results as it will not expand or contract like wood might?
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Yes, the metal doesn't really change in size. I guess if you put your cue under the hot summer sun for a few hours the metallic ring may grow a bit but that would be the least of my concerns.
 
metal rings do not change size......... fiber rings do not shrink................... if you don't want to feel all your rings and inlays it's just about time................. I assemble the cue and hang it in a warm place for 2 weeks......... take the first cut and hang it for 2 weeks............. finish cut or put in the inlays..... hang it for 2 weeks............. finish cut and put on the base coat and hang for 2 weeks........... put the finish on and hang for 2 weeks........... sand and buff it ........................... you will never feel the rings........................... all the adhesives and finishes take a lot longer to finally cure than the manufacturers tell you.............................. before you criticize this............. try it
 
Thanks so much for the correct process for assembling these products correctly so as not to have any issues.
 
whammo57 said:
metal rings do not change size......... fiber rings do not shrink................... if you don't want to feel all your rings and inlays it's just about time................. I assemble the cue and hang it in a warm place for 2 weeks......... take the first cut and hang it for 2 weeks............. finish cut or put in the inlays..... hang it for 2 weeks............. finish cut and put on the base coat and hang for 2 weeks........... put the finish on and hang for 2 weeks........... sand and buff it ........................... you will never feel the rings........................... all the adhesives and finishes take a lot longer to finally cure than the manufacturers tell you.............................. before you criticize this............. try it
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Yes all good advice. You can do all that and if you expose your cue to drastic changes in humidity, it will still swell or shrink. But the metallic rings don't.
 
My solution was to quit using metal rings. I still feel better about my solution than any others I have tried or read about. And I have tried and read about some better ways than this short thread shares.

Plus I think stitch rings look better. So why create a potential problem for something that just doesn't look all that great anyway?
 
SpotOn said:
I have two questions about materials used for joints and rings. Can you successfully install metal rings or will they expand at a different rate than wood and not stay flush. Also what are your thoughts on using turquoise or other stone type products for ring work?
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Some cuemakers cut metal rings a few thousands deeper on the surface to help offset expansion problems.
 
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