router bit for cutting veneers

LosOsosCues said:
Just wanted to say I made my jig for the table saw yesterday and cut four veneers. They turned out perfect. Thanks so much RHN for the much much eaiser way of cutting the veneers. I am going to go bye a table saw this weekend so I can set it up just for cutting the veneers. Im so excited now that I can start to figure out how to do veneers.
Thanks again
Dustin Cookson
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Glad it worked for you. I don't believe that I would buy a saw and leave set up just for cutting veneers. Just hang the jig on the wall until needed and it only takes a few seconds to tilt your blade to the proper angle once you know what it is. Repeatability is quite easy really.

Dick
 
Hey Dick,
when you are cutting your veneers with your jig what degree are you cutting 45 or 43 degrees.
thanks
 
JBCustomCues said:
Hey Dick,
when you are cutting your veneers with your jig what degree are you cutting 45 or 43 degrees.
thanks
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The cut should be exactly 45 deg.. Your table saw should have a stop at 45 deg. but all saws aren't calibrated as they should be. Your saw's tilt gauge may say 45 deg. but that may not be true. You just need to experiment with a couple of 1/8" or so slats in your jig and see just where the cut will make a perfect 90 deg when joined. The stop on all table saws are adjustable. Find your perfect spot and calibrate your stop for there. On my saw, to make a 45 deg. cut I have to actually set the gauge on the saw to read 46 deg.

Dick
 
cutting veneers

IMO ,the way joe shows it in his video with his blade and fixture works very well .so good makes me wanna slap my momma.
 
Router Bit

There is an older post that discusses mitered windows with veneers. It is suggested that the miters can be cut with a CNC machine with an 86-degree router bit - rather than 90 - to make the veneers come together properly. (each veneer is folded to make the corners of the frame) This would be gluing a veneered frame together before the inner window is inlaid. Why is 86-degrees recommended - is it to get the frame to spring outward very slightly or to compensate for vibration.

This is not in general cutting veneers, but it is cutting veneers for a specific task.
 
robertno1pool said:
Why is 86-degrees recommended - is it to get the frame to spring outward very slightly or to compensate for vibration.
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Dick (rhncue) did some trial and error testing and has shared that information in a couple of posts here.
He has found this to be the miter angle required to get his veneers to form a true 90 deg with a good miter fit.
It is possable your equipment will cut true using a 90 deg cutter but you will need to do some testing to find that out.
Most likely you will find the same problem and fix that he did as Dick is a very experienced and skilled cue maker.
 
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robertno1pool said:
Why is 86-degrees recommended - is it to get the frame to spring outward very slightly or to compensate for vibration.
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Several years ago I did a series of trials that varied the angle in 1 degree increments & found that 86 degrees worked best. My best guess is that this style cutter doesn't cut efficiently at the tip & this is why the "wrong" cutter gives you a "right" angle.

see http://www.dzcues.com/veneers.htm
 
dzcues said:
Several years ago I did a series of trials that varied the angle in 1 degree increments & found that 86 degrees worked best. My best guess is that this style cutter doesn't cut efficiently at the tip & this is why the "wrong" cutter gives you a "right" angle.

see http://www.dzcues.com/veneers.htm
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I had made a jig for repeatably cutting and folding veneers for points but the final angle would come up short. I knew that the 90 deg angle was wrong for this application but never knew what was the right angle. Bob is the one who informed me that an 86 deg V-bit would get the proper angle on folded veneers. Any credit for this must go with Bob as he is the one who did the experiments and came up with the solution.

Dick
 
Bit for cutting veneers

Thanks Bob.

As usual, your insights and information on making cues is appreciated.

I do not make cues, but love learning about the processes involved and the art in making cues.
 
rhncue said:
I had made a jig for repeatably cutting and folding veneers for points but the final angle would come up short. I knew that the 90 deg angle was wrong for this application but never knew what was the right angle. Bob is the one who informed me that an 86 deg V-bit would get the proper angle on folded veneers. Any credit for this must go with Bob as he is the one who did the experiments and came up with the solution.

Dick
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DIck,

So where is an 86degree v-bit available?

Thanks,

Hadj
www.hadjcues.com
 
rhncue said:
They aren't. You need to take a 90 deg V-bit to a machine shop or someplace that sharpens bits and have the angle re-ground.

Dick
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Dick,

Are you talking about a side cutting 86 degree cutter (like one you would cut the v-grooves for points in with) or a tool that cuts down as Bob has illustrated?

Mike
 
Pancerny said:
Dick,

Are you talking about a side cutting 86 degree cutter (like one you would cut the v-grooves for points in with) or a tool that cuts down as Bob has illustrated?

Mike
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Just like Bob's. Just a straight, 90 deg, 1/2 inch router bit.

Dick
 
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