Rule Question - End of 9 Ball game

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Preface; Yes, I did read a some of the "Official" rules I found online.

Tonight was my first night back playing pool after my accident three weeks ago. With my bridge arm in a past-my-elbow bent cast, I went down to shoot a few games at the local pub. I gotta admit, it was pretty fun having people on other tables and at the bar watching me play with my cast, making lots of good shots, and winning about 70% of my games. :)

FWIW, I'm an 8-ball player, but with the only open table having only 10 balls -(people stealing balls- F'n idiots!) me and a few of my former 8-ball league team mates opt for an evening of 9-ball. They were less familiar with the game than I me, so I did my best to explain at least what I knew to be the basics of BCA 9-ball.

Two items I wasn't 100%; the one I figured I was close to being correct was that with a Scratch on break = BIH for shot anywhere, even if the one ball is behind the headstring (vs. 8-ball where you have to shoot from behind the headstring at an OB above the Headstring.)

The last item, not so sure. Even though it was a bar table, they were open and free on Sunday nights, but we played "you need to call the 9". Any balls pocketed on a foul shot stayed down, except for the 9 which would get respotted.

So the end of one game, there is a reverse cut bank on the 9 to the near side pocket, 'cept the shot goes bad, and the 9 rolls two banks back into the far side pocket. Is the rule that if the 9 goes into a non-called pocket it is loss of game, or can the 9 be re-spotted on the foot spot and the opponent take over shooting on the 9-ball? If the opponent gets to shoot, is it from where the CB stopped on an otherwise legal hit, or would there be any reason for them to get BIH if there was no scratch?

My thinking now is that the 9 going into a non-called pocket becomes a loss of the game.

Since playing was just for fun, the opponent got to shoot at the re-spotted 9, but it'll be nice to know for next time.

Thanks in advance for helping me learn my 9-ball rules a little better.
 
Wow. Well first of all you should be able to find ALL the rules online, so probably better to look harder. Another thing is there are different rule sets that different people go buy.

As standard scratch off the break = ball in hand anywhere on the table, not behind the line.

Balls made on a foul do stay down. (fwiw balls that fly off the table don't stay down they get spotted).

If you're playing call-pocket for the 9ball and you make it in the wrong pocket it spots.


Like I said some people will play by different rules but those are pretty widely accepted rules.
 
Thanks, yes, I know I have much to learn, but let's start with an expansion of my preface. Yes, I have my BCA Rules Handbook. Yes, I read through it before posting here. Yes I was on the BCA Site looking for additional clarification before I posted here. Yes, I did read through the World Standardized Rules before posting here. I'm quite comfortable with knowing my BCA 8-ball rules. My unedummacatedness is because I may play 9-ball maybe only 2% of the time or less that I'm at a table (having been playing for only a couple years).

I know that BCA says you don't have to call any ball, and the 9 going into any pocket on a legal shot wins. I'm trying to figure the correct resolution to the game we played where general BCA rules were applied, but there was also the added rule of calling the 9 is added in. I was thinking Nine goes in wrong pocket should equal a loss, but as AZE says, no it gets spotted.

Oh well, No big deal. If someone has an exact rule section I should read that deals with the Call pocket variation, I'll be happy to delve in and edummacate myself further. I'm sure it's quite possible that I just missed that section being that it's way late at night / early morning.

FWIW - The real stuff I need to be spending my time learning is how to better park my CB.

Thanks anyway....

Cheers,
 
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What you have stumbled on to here is the reason (in my eyes) why pool has a problem going mainstream.

Everybody plays differently....Bar rules... regional rules.....even "World Rules"...
Crazy.

By my book the 9 is called when it is last on the table ...any foul on the nine is loser.
 
Wow. Well first of all you should be able to find ALL the rules online, so probably better to look harder. Another thing is there are different rule sets that different people go buy.

As standard scratch off the break = ball in hand anywhere on the table, not behind the line.

Balls made on a foul do stay down.

(fwiw balls that fly off the table don't stay down they get spotted).


If you're playing call-pocket for the 9ball and you make it in the wrong pocket it spots.


Like I said some people will play by different rules but those are pretty widely accepted rules.



I think all balls off the table stay down with the exception of the 9-ball (BCA). Balls on the floor never spot....SPF=randyg
 
Based on the fact that 9ball on TV is played both ways, I just referenced a few older matches I've seen. Whenever they play "Call the 9" it is spotted if it isn't potted in the correct pocket. This includes a 9ball break which always gets a big reaction from the audience before they see it get spotted. Then you hear a bunch of mumbling as they remind each other that it's "Call the 9".

If you decided to change the rules slightly, the rule book kind of loses some credibility because you are obviously doing things differently. But, FWIW, when they play "call the 9" on TV...it just gets respotted and the cue ball stays wherever it stops.
 
Playing call the 9, you made up your own rules, so why are you asking? 9 ball as played on tv doesn't really mean very much. Some guy several years ago tried to tell me that the pros were at that time playing call shot 9 ball. They weren't, only in that particular event.
 
What you have stumbled on to here is the reason (in my eyes) why pool has a problem going mainstream.

Everybody plays differently....Bar rules... regional rules.....even "World Rules"...
Crazy.

By my book the 9 is called when it is last on the table ...any foul on the nine is loser.

Add to that, different equipment specifications (pocket sizes and angles).....
 
I think all balls off the table stay down with the exception of the 9-ball (BCA). Balls on the floor never spot....SPF=randyg

Ha, you're right. It's been >year since I've really played any pool and I guess I'm even a bit rusty with the rules.

What I was thinking was... if you knock an object ball off the table it's a foul, it goes down, and it's ball in hand for the other player.
Amirite?
 
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